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Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:31:38 +1300
ferg to me:
[...]was originally filed 26 September 1995 and MIMEsweeper was definitelybeing publicly talked about in terms of using it as an Email gateway virus scanning service earler than that, as this archived Usenet post from 3 July 1995 clearly shows:http://groups.google.com/group/comp.security.misc/browse_thread/thread/72827a6c05f2853d/d74f6ab12ce7251e?lnk=st&q=#d74f6ab12ce7251eNot that I wanted to keep this thread alive, but Nick sucked me back in... :-)
Hehehehe -- it's all part of an evil scheme...
Was MIMEsweeper a plug-in for ccMail (as I assume from the Usenet post you refer to above)?
Kind of, but...
The '600 patent, as I understand it, is unique in that it qualifies the AV mitigation as being done by a gateway device (a la what we now call an "appliance", a la "proxy server") and not by a software solution (AV) atop another application (an SMTP server, in this instance). Of course, I could be wrong -- I am not a lawyer.
...I think you're wrong. As i vaguely recall and from reading between the lines of the above (and other, later, such Usenet posts) MIMEsweeper was originally a plug- in for ccMail and some other mail server (and they were working on Exchaneg and other versions, including (eventually) a "standalone" one), BUT you had to set up a separate "dummy" server _which was effectively a gateway_. Yes, they did it in software layered on other software, but just because Trend called theirs a "gateway device" doesn't mean Trend weren't doing it in their own software layered n other software on hardware.
And I'm quite happy to let the lawyers worry about this stuff ...
I'd rather they just go f*&k themselves and leave the rest of us a lot happier...
... and get back to work chasing real criminals.
Hear, hear... Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag security curmudgeon (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag John Payne (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Nick FitzGerald (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag security curmudgeon (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag David Harley (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Drsolly (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Dude VanWinkle (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Paul Ferguson (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag security curmudgeon (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Paul Ferguson (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag security curmudgeon (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Nick FitzGerald (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Florian Weimer (Jan 31)