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Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag


From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:31:38 +1300

ferg to me:

[...]was originally filed 26 September 1995 and MIMEsweeper was definitely

being publicly talked about in terms of using it as an Email gateway 
virus scanning service earler than that, as this archived Usenet post 
from 3 July 1995 clearly shows:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.security.misc/browse_thread/thread/7
2827a6c05f2853d/d74f6ab12ce7251e?lnk=st&q=#d74f6ab12ce7251e


Not that I wanted to keep this thread alive, but Nick sucked me
back in... :-)

Hehehehe -- it's all part of an evil scheme...

Was MIMEsweeper a plug-in for ccMail (as I assume from the
Usenet post you refer to above)?

Kind of, but...

The '600 patent, as I understand it, is unique in that it
qualifies the AV mitigation as being done by a gateway device
(a la what we now call an "appliance", a la "proxy server") and
not by a software solution (AV) atop another application (an SMTP
server, in this instance).

Of course, I could be wrong -- I am not a lawyer.

...I think you're wrong.

As i vaguely recall and from reading between the lines of the above 
(and other, later, such Usenet posts) MIMEsweeper was originally a plug-
in for ccMail and some other mail server (and they were working on 
Exchaneg and other versions, including (eventually) a "standalone" 
one), BUT you had to set up a separate "dummy" server _which was 
effectively a gateway_.

Yes, they did it in software layered on other software, but just 
because Trend called theirs a "gateway device" doesn't mean Trend 
weren't doing it in their own software layered n other software on 
hardware.

And I'm quite happy to let the lawyers worry about this stuff ...

I'd rather they just go f*&k themselves and leave the rest of us a lot 
happier...

... and
get back to work chasing real criminals.

Hear, hear...


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald

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