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Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag
From: Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:39:36 +0100
* Nick FitzGerald:
As i vaguely recall and from reading between the lines of the above (and other, later, such Usenet posts) MIMEsweeper was originally a plug- in for ccMail and some other mail server (and they were working on Exchaneg and other versions, including (eventually) a "standalone" one), BUT you had to set up a separate "dummy" server _which was effectively a gateway_.
It's a bit questionable if innovation consists of taking features away, for instance by crippling a mail server to support only very restricted mail routing. 8-) But the patent includes a fairly generic claim on virus scanning during email transmission (Claim 11). I don't know anymore if the patent was very innovative in 1995. Uuencoded transmission on virus-infested PCs was a fairly new thing. On BBSes, netmail and files were cleanly separated. Most people used mail servers operated by their provider, with individual accounts, which meant that they couldn't use a gateway solution. ISPs weren't interested in virus scanning service, I guess. The examiner might even have had doubts about the commercial applicability of the described technology. So far, I haven't perceived Barracuda as a free software company. Their free software site appears to be unmaintained, the patches and the distributed software are outdated. The claim that they only make minor changes to free software they ship, and that the configuration files are confidential ("very significant changes to configuration files [...] are not covered by the open source license agreements and are therefore not made available"). OTOH, enforcing patents is usually a desperate move because it carries unpredictable risks. The USPTO doesn't list any patents assigned to Barracuda, but this doesn't mean much. Barracuda could retaliate against Trend, or a sister company might do so. I fail to see what Trend hopes to gain. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag, (continued)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag John Payne (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Nick FitzGerald (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag David Harley (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Drsolly (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Dude VanWinkle (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Paul Ferguson (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag security curmudgeon (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Paul Ferguson (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag security curmudgeon (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Nick FitzGerald (Jan 30)
- Re: TrendMicro goes Douchebag Florian Weimer (Jan 31)