Re: [privacy] Real ID: More Looming Idiocy

["Alex Eckelberry" <AlexE () sunbelt-software com>]

<Long arguments made by others could be inserted here> 

Basicaly, unintended consequences; slow degradation of freedoms ("boiling a frog", etc.); preservation of existing 
rights that are being slowly degraded (see prior); uselessness of requiring a photo ID (all terrorists have been shown 
to have perfectly valid IDs); move toward national ID card (bad thing, Orwell et al), etc. 

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Blanchard_Michael () emc com [mailto:Blanchard_Michael () emc com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:32 AM
To: abrams () eset com; fergdawg () netzero net; privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [privacy] Real ID: More Looming Idiocy

Very True. 

  I for one, don't mind showing ID to get on a Plane.  Heck, I have to show ID to get into a night club or "gentleman's 
club"...

 As long as they're not recording my info and storing it for future use or anythign like that...


Michael P. Blanchard
Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² 
Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. 
Westboro, MA 01580 

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Abrams [mailto:abrams () eset com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:28 AM
To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec); fergdawg () netzero net; privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
Subject: RE: [privacy] Real ID: More Looming Idiocy

There's a big difference between requiring and requesting.

I think there was a decision though that does allow for requiring.

Cheers,

Randy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blanchard_Michael () emc com [mailto:Blanchard_Michael () emc com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:26 AM
> To: fergdawg () netzero net; privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
> Subject: Re: [privacy] Real ID: More Looming Idiocy
>
> > From the register article:
>
> "In fact, he says, airlines are prevented by law from requiring any 
> kind of ID."
>
>   I've always had to show ID to get on a plane, even before 9/11.  If 
> airlines are really prevented by law from requiring any kind of ID, 
> how come they ask for one?  Although maybe they require ID to get the 
> Ticket, but not to get on the plane?  Interesting....
>
>
> Michael P. Blanchard
> Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of 
> Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer 
> Dr.
> Westboro, MA 01580
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawg () netzero net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:54 PM
> To: privacy () whitestar linuxbox org
> Subject: [privacy] Real ID: More Looming Idiocy
>
> Two interesting, yet disturbing, stories on the specter of Real ID
> "compliance":
>
> "Federal Buildings Become Real ID Zones"
> http://www.news.com/Federal-buildings-become-Real-ID-zones/2009-1028-
> 622913
> 3.html
>
> "DHS Official Moots Real ID Rules For Buying Cold Medicine"
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/05/real_id_for_cold_medicine/
>
> - ferg
>
> p.s. Also, this is a good time to point out (once again):
>
> http://UnRealID.com/
>
>
>
>
> --
> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
>  Engineering Architecture for the Internet  fergdawg(at)netzero.net  
> ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
>
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