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Re: DefCon 'Race to Zero'


From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:37:04 +1200

Toralv_Dirro () mcafee com wrote:

Now there is a very common misconception if it comes to malware and
security. Viruses and Trojans don't try to exploit any vulnerabilities
that need to be fixed, they simply take advantage of features offered by
the OS (modifying files, creating files, establishing connections to
some C&C etc.).

AV software is basically looking for all known malware and is trying to
detect new (i.e. unknown) malware based on behaviour or similarities to
known malware. Anything that can be learned from such a contest has
allready been shown back in the early 90s.

The contest may provide some interesting insights if it were up against
behaviour-based protection and HIPS actively running on a system, but
against a bunch of commandline-AV-scanners? C'mon...

Why ruin a perfectly pointless skiddie piddling match by introducing a 
few pertinent facts?

You Germans have no sense of humour...


Regards,

Nick FitzGerald

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