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Re: Origin of: Soft & Gooey, Hard & Crunchy


From: Paul Vixie <vixie () isc org>
Date: 13 May 2008 13:53:19 +0000

predivan () nadlanu com (Predrag Ivanovic) writes:

Does anyone have a reference to the original coinage of this
analogy?

Thanks,

- - ferg

Also sometimes referred to as 'M&M security model'.
Interview with Tom Arnold:
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php/791191
Whitepaper "An Electronic Citadel: A Method for Securing Credit Card and
Private Consumer Data in e-Business Sites":
http://www.siia.net/software/pubs/aec-01.pdf
This is earliest mention of that phrase i could find.

i first heard it from bellovin in 1992, and first saw it in print in the
bellovin/cheswick firewalls book which i think was in 1994.  it may have
been published in an earlier paper that was swept up into that book.
-- 
Paul Vixie
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