Re: global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job

["Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>]

I believe in climate change, I even believe at least some of it is man
made.

I just am unconvinced it's as terrible a thing as everyone's making it
out to be. I'm absolutely convinced that the mooted solutions are awful,
and unlikely to be effective. I'm also completely distrustful of the
crowd pushing for those solutions, given their track record (banning DDT
leading to millions more Malaria cases every year as their seminal act).

However, I am totally in favor of getting off of Oil, for economic and
political security reasons.

Let's build lots of nuclear reactors, and go to electric cars and
delivery vans, with bio-diesel for heavy carriage, off road, boats, and
work trucks/towing.


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:AlexE () sunbelt-software com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:14 PM
To: Tomas L. Byrnes; Gadi Evron; funsec
Subject: RE: [funsec] global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job

I am perhaps in the minority on this list in that I actually believe in
global climate change/warming.   That's not to say that I am not aware
of (and concerned about) the other agendas of some of the environmental
groups out there (population control, etc.). 

However, not worth getting into a debate about it -- there's plenty of
that going on out there. 

But I'm going to sit on the sidelines and see if this thread beats out
either guns or twitter in posts.  Will be interesting to watch. 


Alex


-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of Tomas L. Byrnes
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:54 PM
To: Gadi Evron; funsec
Subject: Re: [funsec] global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job

The water temp here in San Diego remains under 68F, and last anyone
checked, we're about where we were when Columbus sailed for the new
world, which is when the cooling towards the "little ice age" started.
Personally, I'd like a planet more along the lines of the Cambrian
climate. Then most people wouldn't live in cold places where fruits and
vegetables don't grow.

Take a look in the mirror, except for Neanderthal half breeds like Gadi
and myself, there's not enough hair on that body to stay warm anywhere
except the tropics.

However, for SECURITY reasons, we need to stop using OIL, because the
biggest threat to civilization are the people it enriches.

Besides, for most types of driving, electric motors are faster, thanks
to having full torque @ 0 RPM and a flat curve.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
> On Behalf Of Gadi Evron
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:02 AM
> To: funsec
> Subject: [funsec] global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job
>
> wow, just... wow. Even if this is real it is a master-piece of how to 
> discredit, write fake and unsubstantiated:
>
> http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/162241/17_200_Scientists_Dispute_
G
> lobal_Warming
>
>
>
> --
> Gadi Evron,
> ge () linuxbox org.
>
> Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/
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