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Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime
From: Imri Goldberg <lorgandon () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:47:13 +0200
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:42 PM, steve pirk [egrep] <steve () pirk com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:50, Steven Allison <Steven.Allison () cox net>wrote:As for the all of the countries mentioned in this thread, we all know freedom is something you cannot take lightly. You can either be an unarmed "subject," or an armed "citizen" and take control of your own self protection. Steve Allison'nuff said ;-]
I like being free from the need to carry a gun. The cost of upkeep (not necessarily monetary) is high. The responsibility required is also high, and the cost of mishandling, mistakes and accidents is very high. Even if you do use a gun in self defense, at the very least you're looking at a lengthy trial - of course, this is better than being dead, but that might be a false dichotomy. In any case, this issue recalled to my mind a point by a guy whose writing I read: "A First World nation provides its citizens with what the Swedes call * trygghet*: security, the sense that you inhabit a space where you can't come to harm. That it's not sink or swim. In a Third World nation like the US, it's very much sink or swim. In the case of New Orleans, that turned out to be literal." ( http://adamcadre.ac/calendar/11548.html ) I like having enough security to not think that I really *need* a gun day-to-day. Cheers, Imri -- Imri Goldberg -------------------------------------- http://plnnr.com/ - automatic trip planning http://www.algorithm.co.il/blogs/ -------------------------------------- -- insert signature here ----
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- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime, (continued)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Drsolly (Dec 25)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Harley (Dec 26)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 26)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Larry Seltzer (Dec 26)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Harley (Dec 27)
- UK and guns Gadi Evron (Dec 27)
- Re: UK and guns David Harley (Dec 27)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Steven Allison (Dec 27)
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- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime steve pirk [egrep] (Dec 27)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Imri Goldberg (Dec 27)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime David Harley (Dec 28)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 29)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Drsolly (Dec 25)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Larry Seltzer (Dec 25)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Drsolly (Dec 25)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Larry Seltzer (Dec 25)
- Re: FBI: More Guns == Less Crime Drsolly (Dec 25)