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Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups)
From: der Mouse <mouse () rodents-montreal org>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:31:41 -0400 (EDT)
Address space assignments start at the IANA, but they basically farm out an entire /8 at a time to the regional RIR authorities (RIPE in Europe, APNIC in the Pacific Rim, and ARIN in US/North America), who then give out /16's or so to companies. However, they do *NOT*, repeat *NOT* do any sort of policing [...]
Right. That's what I mean: authority is delegated without the concomitant responsibility being imposed. The IANA needs to impose responsibility on the RIRs, since they have failed to assume it themselves; the RIRs in turn need to pass it along. That just ain't happening. As long as that condition prevails, we will have abuses, growing more and more severe until (a) the mismatch is corrected, (b) the system collapses, or (c) a steady state of abuse concomitant to the degree of mismatch is reached. Since the mismatch in this case appears to be total, I expect (b) to happen before (c). I'd still rather see (a), but I hold out little hope for that.
Domain registrations derive from ICANN, [...]
...which, again, is delegating authority without imposing the responsibility to go with it. Gee, and domain registration is another mess. What a _surprise_. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse () rodents-montreal org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) chris (Oct 19)
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- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) rick wesson (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Rich Kulawiec (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene(was Comcastpop-ups) Larry Seltzer (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) der Mouse (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Dan White (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) der Mouse (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) der Mouse (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Nick FitzGerald (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Paul M. Moriarty (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Michael Collins (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) der Mouse (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene (was Comcastpop-ups) Rich Kulawiec (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene(was Comcastpop-ups) Larry Seltzer (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene(was Comcastpop-ups) Nick FitzGerald (Oct 19)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene(was Comcastpop-ups) Rich Kulawiec (Oct 20)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene(was Comcastpop-ups) G. D. Fuego (Oct 20)
- Re: Public Policy and Consumer ISP Hygiene(was Comcastpop-ups) Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 20)