Re: But Facebook are not spammers

[Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>]

On 5/27/10 10:44 AM, Paul Vixie wrote:
> ge () linuxbox org (Gadi Evron) writes:
>
> > On 5/25/10 2:24 PM, Jim Murray wrote:
> > > - The system should interpret no reply as 'I don't want any more
> > > messages from this site, ever'.
> >
> > I think I'd be okay with "this message will repeat itself in one week,
> > once."
>
> anything you plan to let anybody do, you must be prepared to let everybody
> do, even criminal spammers (as opposed, i guess, to this implicit
> definition of "noncriminal spammers"). whatever standard you set for e-mail
> input will be used by the people who sue you for blocking them, as evidence
> that you're part of a conspiracy in restraint of (their) trade.
>
> i've been sued about spam more than almost anybody. so when i talk about
> getting sued you should consider listening carefully, because i won't be
> listening at all to the people talking about spam who have not been sued as
> much as i have been sued, which is almost everybody. in order to prevent
> the conversation from being zero-sided, maybe pay attention to what i'm
> saying about precedents and principles: make the conversation at least
> one-sided, and then try to add more sides from there. don't remain ignorant
> and kneejerky about spam just because that's a comfortable zone to be in.
>
> don't let facebook do anything that you wouldn't like to let every spammer
> whether you'd call them a criminal spammer or not also do. spam is spam
> and the fine gradients that facebook and their apologists would like us to
> apply would prevent any real progress in establishing or protecting any
> real rights. make facebook set an example that you'd like every other bulk
> e-mailer, whether you'd call them a criminal bulk e-mailer or not, follow.

Agreed. The issue of the discussion is that I did not agree Facebook are 
spammers. But I think both sides put forth their arguments clearly.

        Gadi.
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