RE: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited

[Chris Mauritz <chrism () raremedium com>]

No.  That's not really a valid comparison.  You have a choice about which
credit card company you deal with.  Network Solutions is spamming you based
on information you are required to provide to them.  If you refuse to
provide them with the info, you get no domain registration.  Cute, eh?

C

Chris Mauritz
Director, Systems Administration
Rare Medium, Inc.
chrism () raremedium com


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron_Johnson () enron net [mailto:Ron_Johnson () enron net]
Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 12:46 PM
To: Paul A Vixie
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited


I don't really see this as SPAM. It's is annoying, but I would place it in
the same classification as a credit card company, one that I hold a card
from. sending me junk mail. Since they (Network solutions), have developed
this mailing list from infomation you provided to them in registering
domain(s).
They are entitled to contact you. You may, of course complain, and they
(Network solutions), are of course are entitled to take no action.

Ron Johnson





Paul A Vixie <paul () vix com> on 11/16/98 02:17:36 AM


To:   nanog () merit edu
cc:    (bcc: Ron Johnson/Enron Communications)
Subject:  RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited




The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got.
Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you,
I've
decided to ponder this question out loud:

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:26 PST
To: rbl () maps vix com
Subject: Paul - value call on this

Technically, this is an opt-out customer-relationship spam.

I think it is a special case, because _there is no where else to go_.

208.226.58.70 should be RBL'ed, IMHO.  Help me.

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> ###########################
>
> Dear Customer,
>
> You are a valued customer and we want to help increase and
> protect the value of your domain name. As a free added benefit of
> your domain name registration, we would like to send you our
> "E-Commerce Update" from time to time. In these updates, we will
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> "Securing Your Web Site for Business" outlines the options you
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> Issues covered in "Securing Your Web Site for Business" include:
>
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> * How to maximize your on-line security at a low cost
> * How to accept credit cards and sell products on-line---securely
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>
> We would also like to take this opportunity to remind you of the
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>
> Doug Wolford
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