Re: Spamcop

[Guðbjörn S. Hreinsson <gsh () centrum is>]

Possible someone on the list didn't understand the content, didn't 
realize this was sent via a mailing lists and submitted this as a spam 
message to SPAMCOP. Less likely someone didn't know how to 
get off the mailing list and this was the result. 

In both cases the submitter exercised bad judgement. But the mailing 
list could be more helpful as well. There have been no reminders from 
the mailing list since I signed up which I think is a good policy for a 
mailing list. The mailing list only uses "Precedence: bulk" to mark it as 
a mailing list. 

That said, this is a case of misjudgment, albeit perhaps a premature 
and a hasty one.


Rgds,
-GSH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vicky Rode" <vickyr () socal rr com>
To: <nanog () merit edu>; <nanog () nanog org>; <nanog-support () nanog org>
Cc: <rrsecurity () socal rr com>; <vickyr () socal rr com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: Spamcop


> Hi there,
>
> Just wondering why was my e-mail thread (Hierarchical Credit-based 
> Queuing (HCQ): QoS) dated 5/9/2004 9:36 PM reported as a spam? Just 
> trying to understand so that I don't repeat it. Below is a cut and paste 
> of the reported incident.
>
>
> Please advice.
>
>
> regards,
> /vicky
>
>
> ---- cut here ------
>
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> Subject: [SpamCop (24.30.181.126) id:988145978]Hierarchical Credit-based
> Queuing (HCQ): QoS
> Precedence: list
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> Message-ID: <409F________0602 () socal rr com>
> Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 21:36:41 -0700
> From: Vicky Rode <vickyr () socal rr com>
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> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502)
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> Subject: Hierarchical Credit-based Queuing (HCQ): QoS
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> Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing () merit edu
> X-Loop: nanog
>
>
>
> Hi there,
>
>
> Just wondering if anyone out there has either implemented or looked into
>
> this queuing method for quality of service implementation.
> This solution is offered (hardware solution) and patented by
> foursticks.com. According to foursticks, "HCQ achieves the efficiency
> and flexibility of first generation queuing systems, without the
> disadvantages."
>
> It compares HCQ (interesting reading) w/ Class-Based Queuing (CBQ),
> Random Early Discard (RED) and Weighted Random Early Discard
> (WRED),Weighted Fair Queuing (WFQ),Priority Queuing (PQ) & Low Latency
> Queuing (LLQ).
>
>
> Also can anyone recommend a qos forum which I can ping as well.
>
>
> Any insight will be appreciated.
>
>
> regards,
> /vicky