Re: RE: NYSE

[sgorman1 () gmu edu]

There are a few things about the SFTI set up that are a bit baffling to me.  From their website:

SFTI carries IP traffic over a topology of redundant, self-healing fiber-optic rings, completely independent of all 
other telco circuits and conduits. SFTI's design is straightforward, consolidating traffic into fewer pipes, which 
minimizes complexity and reduces the number of potential points of failure. 

What does "completely independent of all other telco circuits and conduits" mean?  Did they get their very own "new" 
right of ways dug out.  A certain government report listed their physical fiber provider, and they certainly are not 
new right of ways.  Further, I'm a bit baffled how reducing the number of pipes reduces the number of potential points 
of failure.  Usually fewer pipes means less diversity.  A ring is nice till someone hits it in two places.  I also 
wonder how many of these rings are collapsed in a single conduit.  I hope someone over there is asking tough questions 
and are following up on getting a second physical fiber provider.  I'd recommend not advertising who it this time 
either.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Temkin, David" <temkin () sig com>
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:45 am
Subject: RE: NYSE

> You can no longer order "direct" lines to SIAC unless you have an
> extremely compelling reason.  Nowadays you must order a line to "SFTI"
> which is their Disaster-Recovery-centric service.  You are correct 
> aboutthe connection method, but he will need to be specific and 
> understandthat he wants to connect to SFTI and not just "SIAC" 
> directly anymore.
>
> See: https://sfti.siac.com/sfti/index.jsp  for more details.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On 
> > Behalf Of Alen Capalik
> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:20 PM
> > To: Philip Lavine
> > Cc: nanog
> > Subject: Re: NYSE
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:36:16AM -0700, Philip Lavine wrote:
> > > If I where to connect to SIAC thru a SONNET ring who's 
> > would it be? Is 
> > > it private or public?
> >
> > They use any provider (Verizon, MCI, AT&T and ConEd Comm.), 
> > however ConED Comm. is their primary backbone provider.  So, 
> > here's how you go about it.  You order a line (DS-1, DS-3, 
> > 100Mb/s, Gig, whatever) from any of the providers you use (if 
> > I were you I would use either Verizon or ConEd Comm, I can 
> > give you the number for ConEd Comm. head sales person).  You 
> > contact SIAC, and you start the paperwork to get your network 
> > connected into their backbone SONET.  Once you get permit 
> > numbers, you have the provider drop a line into one of 5 data 
> > centers around NY area, and SIAC gives you a port on one of 
> > their Juniper Routers.  They also give you a VLAN setup 
> > requirements so you can configure your border switch/router.  
> > The line is owned by you.  SIAC only gives you a port on 
> > their routers.  NOTE: NEVER ORDER ONE LINE.
> > ORDER TWO OR MORE LINES TO DIFFERENT SIAC DATA CENTERS.  The 
> > cost for one port (one line) is as follows:
> >
> > MRC (Monthly Reaccuring Cost):                              
> >     $4,400.00 
> > NRC (Non-Reaccuring Cost i.e. one time fee):        $8,800 
> >
> > Any line you drop at SIAC will cost you that amount, and 
> > that's on top of the line costs from the provider.  That's 
> > it.  Hope this helps.  Like I said it's a very long and 
> > tedious process getting the line up and running with SIAC.  
> > They are practically a government institution, and they don't 
> > move too fast for anybody.
> >
> > > --- "R. Benjamin Kessler" <rbk () midwestnsg com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've setup a highly-redundant connection for one of my 
> clients 
> > > > (equipment in two different access-centers in two 
> > different cities).
> > > > What are you looking to do?
> > > >
> > > > - Ben
> > > >
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > R. Benjamin Kessler
> > > > Sr. Network Consultant
> > > > CCIE #8762, CISSP, CCSE
> > > > Midwest Network Services Group
> > > > Email: rbk () midwestnsg com
> > > > http://www.midwestnsg.com
> > > > Phone: 260-625-3273
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-nanog () merit edu
> > > > [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of Philip Lavine
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:38 PM
> > > > To: nanog () merit edu
> > > > Subject: NYSE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have experience in setting up a direct 
> > connection with 
> > > > NYSE, specifically SIAC or SFTI?
> > > >
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