Re: NYSE

[Philip Lavine <source_route () yahoo com>]

I would prefer not to use a third party provider
because of the IP backbone. My experience has been
witht eh third party providers is that there is not
enough responsiveness (packet loss issues) to
burstable traffic at market open and close. 
Unfortunately when the third party networks were
designed there was no forethought into the need for
market data traffic or multicast. They were
concentrating on FIX and CMS traffic which is low
volume low BW TCP traffic.

I think the real answer here is to be as close to SFTI
as possible if you intend to go direct. Hosting at 2
or more SFTI DC's seems is the best option. Direct
local access seems second best


--- Alen Capalik <alen () wiretapnetworks com> wrote:

> My advice to you is to use a third party provider
> like Radianz, TNS or
> Sector (SIAC owned company).  They can take a lot of
> headaches away from
> this.  David is right, you can't connect to SIAC
> directly any more,
> that's a legacy network (called so by SIAC) and are
> phasing it out.
> Again, if you are in CA then use one of the above
> mentioned providers.
> It's cost effective and faster then if you were
> dealing with SFTI
> directly.  BTW, to everybody, please don't write
> back saying that third
> party providers are NO GOOD or that you had bad
> experiences with them.
> I'm well aware of all this and don't need a lecture
> on it.  My opinion
> (and I have been dealing with all of them extensivly
> for a long time) if
> you are  in CA, use them it takes away lot of
> headaches (make sure
> you're redundant with them) and gets you up and
> running fast.  My
> prefered way of connecting would either be Radianz
> or Sector, I don't
> like TNS (to all TNS guys outthere, sorry).  Hope
> this helps.
>
> AC
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 06:01:36AM -0700, Philip
> Lavine wrote:
> > I am assuming this means that I have a POP on the
> East
> > Coast. I am Burbank California, currently.
> >  
> > --- Alen Capalik <alen () wiretapnetworks com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:36:16AM -0700, Philip
> > > Lavine wrote:
> > > > If I where to connect to SIAC thru a SONNET
> ring
> > > who's
> > > > would it be? Is it private or public?
> > >
> > > They use any provider (Verizon, MCI, AT&T and
> ConEd
> > > Comm.), however
> > > ConED Comm. is their primary backbone provider. 
> So,
> > > here's how you go
> > > about it.  You order a line (DS-1, DS-3,
> 100Mb/s,
> > > Gig, whatever) from
> > > any of the providers you use (if I were you I
> would
> > > use either Verizon
> > > or ConEd Comm, I can give you the number for
> ConEd
> > > Comm. head sales
> > > person).  You contact SIAC, and you start the
> > > paperwork to get your
> > > network connected into their backbone SONET. 
> Once
> > > you get permit
> > > numbers, you have the provider drop a line into
> one
> > > of 5 data centers
> > > around NY area, and SIAC gives you a port on one
> of
> > > their Juniper
> > > Routers.  They also give you a VLAN setup
> > > requirements so you can
> > > configure your border switch/router.  The line
> is
> > > owned by you.  SIAC
> > > only gives you a port on their routers.  NOTE:
> NEVER
> > > ORDER ONE LINE.
> > > ORDER TWO OR MORE LINES TO DIFFERENT SIAC DATA
> > > CENTERS.  The cost for one
> > > port (one line) is as follows:
> > >
> > > MRC (Monthly Reaccuring Cost):                                    $4,400.00 
> > > NRC (Non-Reaccuring Cost i.e. one time fee): 
> $8,800
> > > Any line you drop at SIAC will cost you that
> amount,
> > > and that's on top
> > > of the line costs from the provider.  That's it.
>
> > > Hope this helps.  Like
> > > I said it's a very long and tedious process
> getting
> > > the line up and
> > > running with SIAC.  They are practically a
> > > government institution, and
> > > they don't move too fast for anybody.
> > >
> > > > --- "R. Benjamin Kessler" <rbk () midwestnsg com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > I've setup a highly-redundant connection for
> one
> > > of
> > > > > my clients (equipment in
> > > > > two different access-centers in two
> different
> > > > > cities).
> > > > >
> > > > > What are you looking to do?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Ben
> > > > >
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > R. Benjamin Kessler
> > > > > Sr. Network Consultant
> > > > > CCIE #8762, CISSP, CCSE
> > > > > Midwest Network Services Group
> > > > > Email: rbk () midwestnsg com
> > > > > http://www.midwestnsg.com
> > > > > Phone: 260-625-3273
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-nanog () merit edu
> > > > > [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of
> > > > > Philip Lavine
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:38 PM
> > > > > To: nanog () merit edu
> > > > > Subject: NYSE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have experience in setting up a
> > > direct
> > > > > connection with NYSE, specifically SIAC or
> SFTI?
> > >  
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> > > -- 
> > > Alen Capalik
> > > CTO
> > > Wiretap Networks Inc.
> > >
> > > Tel:              (310)497-3512
> > > Email:            alen () wiretapnetworks com
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> Alen Capalik
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> Wiretap Networks Inc.
>
> Tel:          (310)497-3512
> Email:                alen () wiretapnetworks com
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