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Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008
From: David Meyer <dmm () 1-4-5 net>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:29:46 -0700
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 02:54:30PM +0000, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Mohacsi Janos wrote:This keeps coming up in each discussion about v6, 'what security measures' is never really defined in any real sense. As near as I can tell it's level of 'security' is no better (and probably worse at the outset, for the implementations not the protocol itself) than v4. I could be wrong, but I'm just not seeing any 'inherent security' in v6, and selling it that way is just a bad plan.Just name a few: - Possibility to end-to-end IPSec.exists in v4- Not feasible scanning of subnets remotelyeh... maybe, I'm not convinced this matters anyway.- Privacy enhanced addresses - not tracking usage based on addressesdhcp can do this for you (v4 has mechanisms for this)- Better ingress filteringright... because gear that filters so well in v4-land will filter so much better in v6-land? you == crazy. All those objections aside, I'd love to see v6 more fully deployed. I'm not sure I see how it's going to get beyond 'research' or 'play' land, except for some small cases, for quite some time. It's interesting that the flood gates on ip space are openning at IANA though, that should hasten the v6 takeup/deployment :)
Perhaps paraphrasing what Chris just said: At the end of the day, it is very difficult to make the case that IPv6 offers anything that IPv4 doesn't other than a larger address space. Dave
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