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Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:16:06 -0500
On Nov 1, 2005, at 11:46 AM, John Payne wrote:
On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:If your business model is to provide flat-rate access, it is not _my_ responsibility to ensure your customers do not use more access than your flat-rate can compensate you to deliver.That is something that has always confused me about ratio based peering disputes. Surely it is the responsibility of the content-sucking network to build and engineer to meet the demands of *their* customers (and build the cost of doing that into the pricing model). It appears to me that the content heavy networks are going above and beyond to work around the broken model that the content-suckers have.What am I missing?
That argument works in both directions. I'm an eyeball network, I'll sit in my DLSAM and force all the content people to come to me. Isn't their responsibility to their customers to deliver bits to me?
Assume that both content and eyeballs are equally important. (If you assume one is more important than the other, this all devolves into "the less important should pay, period", which is not going to happen.) Why does the content network get to dump traffic instantly without paying for long haul, but the eyeballs have to carry it across the ocean / country / whatever?
You could argue that's The Way It Is. Eyeball and Tier One networks appear to disagree. Not sure they are wrong.
It seems reasonable (to me, at least) to ask that a "peer" share the cost of trading bits. Cold-potato does not mean the content network has to deliver bits to every DSLAM in the country. But asking the hosting provider with 10M ft^2 colos in SJC & IAD to carry some of that traffic to ORD, DFW, LAX, JFK, etc., seems like a fair compromise.
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now, (continued)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Stephen J. Wilcox (Nov 02)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Pete Templin (Nov 02)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Deepak Jain (Nov 02)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Jeff Aitken (Nov 02)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Jon Lewis (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now John Payne (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Brandon Ross (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Stephen J. Wilcox (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Brandon Ross (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Florian Weimer (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Deepak Jain (Nov 02)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 01)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Erik Haagsman (Nov 02)
- Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Randy Bush (Nov 02)
- RE: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now Sean Donelan (Nov 04)