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Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless


From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:42:28 -0400



On August 1, 2006 at 11:50 surfer () mauigateway com (Scott Weeks) wrote:
...
there has to be a technical way to do this, rather 
than a diplomatic way as the diplomatic ways historically 
have not worked in the other areas mentioned, so they 
probably won't work here, either.  Or we have to keep 
going until one can be contrived.  Many good attempts 
have been made and there will be more to come until we 
hopefully rid ourselves of the sickness others of lower 
values force on us daily...

I have nothing against technical solutions tho after over ten years of
a lot of smart people trying, and a grand prize of probably a billion
dollars increase in personal wealth, it doesn't seem forthcoming.

However, I do take exception to the assertion that "diplomatic ways
historically have not worked in other areas mentioned".

I think what you mean is that they haven't worked perfectly, but
slipped the semantics a little. Surely you didn't mean to say that all
efforts to oppose, e.g., the human slave trade have been in vain?

The effectiveness has a lot to do with the profitability making the
risk worthwhile (e.g., drug trade), and who the crime appeals to; some
poor, desparate people will take risks others won't (e.g., high-seas
piracy.)

Unfortunately all this reasoning might be edifying but it leads
nowhere.

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