Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

[Peter Dambier <peter () peter-dambier de>]

Barry Shein wrote:
> On August 1, 2006 at 11:50 surfer () mauigateway com (Scott Weeks) wrote:
>  >...
>  > there has to be a technical way to do this, rather 
>  > than a diplomatic way as the diplomatic ways historically 
>  > have not worked in the other areas mentioned, so they 
>  > probably won't work here, either.  Or we have to keep 
>  > going until one can be contrived.  Many good attempts 
>  > have been made and there will be more to come until we 
>  > hopefully rid ourselves of the sickness others of lower 
>  > values force on us daily...
>
> I have nothing against technical solutions tho after over ten years of
> a lot of smart people trying, and a grand prize of probably a billion
> dollars increase in personal wealth, it doesn't seem forthcoming.

Let me try to become Gadi. First of all block port 80 (http) :)
Next block port 53 udp (dns).

Now you have got rid of amplification attacks because spoofing does
no longer work and you have got rid of all those silly users that
only know how to click the mouse.

Put every client leaking netbios into a sandbox. Dont allow them
anything but logon :)

> However, I do take exception to the assertion that "diplomatic ways
> historically have not worked in other areas mentioned".
>
> I think what you mean is that they haven't worked perfectly, but
> slipped the semantics a little. Surely you didn't mean to say that all
> efforts to oppose, e.g., the human slave trade have been in vain?
>
> The effectiveness has a lot to do with the profitability making the
> risk worthwhile (e.g., drug trade), and who the crime appeals to; some
> poor, desparate people will take risks others won't (e.g., high-seas
> piracy.)
>
> Unfortunately all this reasoning might be edifying but it leads
> nowhere.

Cheers
Peter and Karin

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