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RE: Abuse response


From: <michael.dillon () bt com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:01:26 +0100


- Automation is far less important than clue.  Attempting to
compensate for lack of a sufficient number of sufficiently-
intelligent, experienced, diligent staff with automation is
a known-losing strategy, as anyone who has ever dealt with
an IVR system knows.

Given that most of us use routers instead of pigeons to transport
our packets, I would suggest that railing against automation is
a lost cause here.

- Poorly-desigged and poorly-run operations markedly increase 
the workload for their own abuse desks.

This sounds like a blanket condemnation of the majority of ISPs 
in today's Internet. 

- A nominally competent abuse desk handles reports quickly 
and efficiently.
A good abuse desk DOES NOT NEED all those reports because it 
already knows.
(For example, large email providers should have large numbers 
of spamtraps scattered all over the 'net and should be using 
simple methods to correlate what arrives at them to provide 
themselves with an early "heads up".  This won't catch 
everything, of course, but it doesn't have to.)

Why is it that spamtraps are not mentioned at all in MAAWG's best 
practices documents except the one for senders, i.e. mailing list
operators?

Note that if an ISP does have a network of spamtraps, then they have
an automated reporting system, which you denounced in your first point.

I agree that simply automating things will not make anything better, but
intelligent automation is good for you and me and the ISP who implements
it. An intelligent automation system could identify a spam source and
immediately block the port 25 traffic until it can be investigated by
a human being.

--Michael Dillon


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