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Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update]
From: Steve Atkins <steve () blighty com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:09:44 -0700
On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:54 AM, William Herrin wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Steve Atkins <steve () blighty com> wrote:Unfortunately many of the skills required to be a competent abuse desk worker are quite specific to an abuse desk, and are not typically possessedby random technical staff.Steve, You don't, per chance, mean to suggest that random back-office technical staff might not have the temper and disposition to remain polite and helpful with the gentleman from the state capital so upset about the interdiction of his political mailings that he's ready to sic the regulators on you and wipe you off the map? The problem is that the individual who -does- have those skills along with the technical know-how to deal with the complaint itself usually ALSO has the skills to be the customer contact for a multi-million dollar contract. If you're a manager at a company that wants to, well, make money, which chair will you ask that individual to sit in?
Not really. IMO, with decent automation[1] and a reasonably close working relationship between the abuse desk, the NOC and an internal sysadmin/developer or two, there's not that much need for a high level of technical know-how in the abuse desk staff. Good people skills are certainly important, and it'd be good to have at least one abuse desk staffer with a modicum of technical knowledge to handle basic technical questions, and help channel more complex ones to to NOC or developers efficiently, but the level of technical know-how needed to be an extremely effective abuse desk staffer is pretty low. The specific technical details they do need to know they can pick up from their peers (both within the abuse desk, in other groups of their company and, perhaps most importantly, from their peer at other companies abuse desks). It's closer to a customer support position, in skillset needed, than anything deeply technical, though an innate ability to remain calm under pressure is far more important in abuse than support. If you're big enough that you need more than one person staffing your abuse desk you can mix-n-match skills across the team too, of course. Cheers, Steve [1] Yeah, I develop abuse desk automation software, so I'm both reasonably exposed to practices at a range of ISPs and fairly biased in favor of good automation. :)
Current thread:
- RE: Abuse response, (continued)
- RE: Abuse response michael.dillon (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response Rich Kulawiec (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] William Herrin (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Marshall Eubanks (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] William Herrin (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Marshall Eubanks (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] William Herrin (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Rich Kulawiec (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Steve Atkins (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] William Herrin (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Steve Atkins (Apr 15)
- RE: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] michael.dillon (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Joe Abley (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Martin Hannigan (Apr 15)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Rich Kulawiec (Apr 16)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] William Herrin (Apr 16)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Dave Pooser (Apr 16)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Simon Waters (Apr 16)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Joe Abley (Apr 16)
- Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update] Greg Skinner (Apr 16)