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Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:34:04 -0400
On Jul 31, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Jamie A Lawrence wrote:
On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:Isn't malicious, just not very ethical. Having been on the recieving end a few times.. you don't always know it is happening.I'm not sure that's a useful distinction. I strongly doubt any vendor has actual malice towards me (modulo some people I've pissed off at times in panics). Ethics are what I hope for from partners, try to demonstrate, and it is proven over time.That said, inventing random fees, hiding them as "taxes" or "federally mandated something or other", and seeing what sticks to the wall in order to get that tiny percent profit boost is not going to make any friends in a network community. It works much better with cell customers or unaware bean counters, but netops folks are going to see it. L3 have given me reason to not like them in the past, and this is just more of the same. The problem is that the big boys seem to be racing to the bottom, so there isn't anyone better to which to defect.
Calling something a "tax" or "federally mandated" when it is not sounds both like a class action suit waiting to happen, and illegal enough to have the company at least fined.
Why doesn't Cuomo go after problems like this instead of the BS he likes to chase. It's got to have an appeal to at least as many people who vote.
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Patrick Giagnocavo (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Joel Esler (Jul 31)
- RE: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Lorell Hathcock (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Gadi Evron (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Joe Maimon (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Jean-François Mezei (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Gadi Evron (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Jamie A Lawrence (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Edward B. DREGER (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Wayne E. Bouchard (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Deepak Jain (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Joe Maimon (Jul 31)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers David Hubbard (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Jeffrey Lyon (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Robert E. Seastrom (Jul 31)