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Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers


From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:50:55 -0400

On Jul 31, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote:

Hoping for a company which will put ethics above profit is like
looking for an honest politician. They're extremely rare.

I'm just looking for a company that looks past the next quarterly investor call. Because then at least some ethics come into play. Doing things like this will have longer term effects, and they won't be positive.

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TTFN,
patrick


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:28:47PM -0400, Jamie A Lawrence wrote:

On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:

Isn't malicious, just not very ethical. Having been on the recieving
end a few times.. you don't always know it is happening.

I'm not sure that's a useful distinction. I strongly doubt any vendor
has actual malice towards me (modulo some people I've pissed off at
times in panics). Ethics are what I hope for from partners, try to
demonstrate, and it is proven over time.

That said, inventing random fees, hiding them as "taxes" or "federally
mandated something or other", and seeing what sticks to the wall in
order to get that tiny percent profit boost is not going to make any
friends in a network community. It works much better with cell
customers or unaware bean counters, but netops folks are going to see
it. L3 have given me reason to not like them in the past, and this is
just more of the same. The problem is that the big boys seem to be
racing to the bottom, so there isn't anyone better to which to defect.

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Wayne Bouchard
web () typo org
Network Dude
http://www.typo.org/~web/




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