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Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:50:55 -0400
On Jul 31, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote:
Hoping for a company which will put ethics above profit is like looking for an honest politician. They're extremely rare.
I'm just looking for a company that looks past the next quarterly investor call. Because then at least some ethics come into play. Doing things like this will have longer term effects, and they won't be positive.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:28:47PM -0400, Jamie A Lawrence wrote:On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:Isn't malicious, just not very ethical. Having been on the recieving end a few times.. you don't always know it is happening.I'm not sure that's a useful distinction. I strongly doubt any vendor has actual malice towards me (modulo some people I've pissed off at times in panics). Ethics are what I hope for from partners, try to demonstrate, and it is proven over time.That said, inventing random fees, hiding them as "taxes" or "federallymandated something or other", and seeing what sticks to the wall in order to get that tiny percent profit boost is not going to make any friends in a network community. It works much better with cell customers or unaware bean counters, but netops folks are going to see it. L3 have given me reason to not like them in the past, and this is just more of the same. The problem is that the big boys seem to beracing to the bottom, so there isn't anyone better to which to defect.--- Wayne Bouchard web () typo org Network Dude http://www.typo.org/~web/
Current thread:
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers, (continued)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Joel Esler (Jul 31)
- RE: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Lorell Hathcock (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Gadi Evron (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Joe Maimon (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Jean-François Mezei (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Gadi Evron (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Jamie A Lawrence (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Edward B. DREGER (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Wayne E. Bouchard (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Deepak Jain (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Joe Maimon (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Jeffrey Lyon (Jul 31)
- Re: Level3 tries cell-phone style billing scam on customers Robert E. Seastrom (Jul 31)