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Re: legacy /8
From: Steven Bellovin <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 19:03:07 -0400
On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:38 26PM, Andrew Gray wrote:
Jeroen van Aart writes:Cutler James R wrote:I also just got a fresh box of popcorn. I will sit by and waitI honestly am not trying to be a troll. It's just everytime I glance over the IANA IPv4 Address Space Registry I feel rather annoyed about all those /8s that were assigned back in the day without apparently realising we might run out. It was explained to me that many companies with /8s use it for their internal network and migrating to 10/8 instead is a major pain.You know, I've felt the same irritation before, but one thing I am wondering and perhaps some folks around here have been around long enough to know - what was the original thinking behind doing those /8s? I understand that they were A classes and assigned to large companies, etc. but was it just not believed there would be more than 126(-ish) of these entities at the time? Or was it thought we would move on to larger address space before we did? Or was it that things were just more free-flowing back in the day? Why were A classes even created? RFC 791 at least doesn't seem to provide much insight as to the 'whys'.
Many large companies found that class A nets weren't very useful. Multiple levels of subnetting didn't exist, which meant that you couldn't assign a /16 to a location and a /24 to each piece of thick yellow cable within the location, for example. AT&T got 12/8 moderately early. We realized we couldn't easily use it, and offered it back in exchange for the equivalent in class B space. Postel gave us the latter (135/8), but told us to keep 12/8 -- other people were discovering the same problem, so there was little demand for class A networks. (This was circa 1987, if memory serves, and possibly a year or two earlier.) --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
Current thread:
- Re: legacy /8, (continued)
- Re: legacy /8 Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 11)
- Re: legacy /8 Dobbins, Roland (Apr 11)
- Re: legacy /8 Owen DeLong (Apr 04)
- Re: legacy /8 Roland Perry (Apr 04)
- Re: legacy /8 Joe Greco (Apr 04)
- Re: legacy /8 Roland Perry (Apr 04)
- Commodore PET, was: Re: legacy /8 Jeroen van Aart (Apr 11)
- Re: Commodore PET, was: Re: legacy /8 Paul Vixie (Apr 11)
- alt.folklore.nanog (was:Re: Commodore PET, was: Re: legacy /8) Lamar Owen (Apr 14)
- Re: alt.folklore.nanog Jeroen van Aart (Apr 14)
- Re: legacy /8 Steven Bellovin (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Michael Dillon (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Jeffrey I. Schiller (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Mark Smith (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 03)
- Re: legacy /8 Matthew Kaufman (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Barry Shein (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 bmanning (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 Randy Bush (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 bmanning (Apr 02)
- Re: legacy /8 jim deleskie (Apr 02)