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Re: Request Spamhaus contact
From: William Pitcock <nenolod () systeminplace net>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:49:42 -0600
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:35:22 -0500 Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net> wrote:
William, I'm not certain that any Black Lotus IP's are even connected to EFnet.
Maybe not presently, but your company has a history in the IRC community. And it's not a history I would define as "good." A history of selling "protection" which was in reality not a technical measure (infact, we know this because back then your employees said outright that DDoS mitigation was being done after the point, so no fancy IntruGuard-like stuff going on there.) but instead an intimidation measure. As in, "DDoS wars", "mutually-assured DoS", so on. Kinda like FooNet/Atrivo/etc. Actually, *exactly* like FooNet/Atrivo/etc.
Secondly, we're more than happy to act on any data presented to us if they actually care to present it to us before listing the entire ISP.
When you keep in mind that many people involved in the anti-abuse community originate from the IRC community, then it should be no surprise that they would not wish to waste their time dealing with people who were part of the "protection racket" of olden days.
I'm not sure what non-spam related "e-trash" has to do this any of this.
The fact that you willingly pollute the internet as a whole with SEO "optimization" pages says a lot about your company. In my opinion SEO "optimization" pages like myspace-codes.com *are* spam. That is the same opinion held by many others. Do not expect any pity from the rest of us who bust our proverbial asses to keep our netspace clean. William
Current thread:
- Re: {Spam?} Re: Request Spamhaus contact, (continued)
- Re: {Spam?} Re: Request Spamhaus contact TR Shaw (Jan 17)
- Re: {Spam?} Re: Request Spamhaus contact Nick Hilliard (Jan 17)
- Re: {Spam?} Re: Request Spamhaus contact Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 17)
- Re: {Spam?} Re: Request Spamhaus contact Mark Wall (Jan 17)
- Re: {Spam?} Re: Request Spamhaus contact Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 17)
- Re: {Spam?} Re: Request Spamhaus contact Jeroen van Aart (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact William Pitcock (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact William Pitcock (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact William Pitcock (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact William Pitcock (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact William Pitcock (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact Andrew Kirch (Jan 17)
- Re: Request Spamhaus contact Nathan Stratton (Jan 17)