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Re: Do Not Complicate Routing Security with Voodoo Economics


From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil () domino org>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:21:07 +0000

maybe volunteers from the nanog community should contact you?

On 4 Sep 2011, at 16:45, "Jennifer Rexford" <jrex () CS Princeton EDU> wrote:

Neil,

The group is being assembled right now, so we don't have a list as of yet. 

-- Jen


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On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:32 AM, "Neil J. McRae" <neil () domino org> wrote:

Jen,
What operators are involved? And who represents them specifically?

Neil.

On 04/09/2011 16:07, "Jennifer Rexford" <jrex () CS Princeton EDU> wrote:


As one of the co-chairs of this working group, I'd like to chime in to
clarify the purpose of this group.  Our goal is to assemble a group of
vendors and operators (not "publish or perish" academics) to discuss and
recommend effective strategies for incremental deployment of security
solutions for BGP (e.g., such as the ongoing RPKI and BGP-SEC work).  It
is not to design new security protocols or to "write policy and
procedures for operators" -- that would of course be over-reaching and
presumptuous.  The goal is specifically to identify strategies for
incremental deployment of the solutions designed and evaluated by the
appropriate technical groups (e.g., IETF working groups).  And, while the
SIGCOMM paper you mention is an example of such a strategy, it is just
one single example -- and is by no means the recommendation of a group
that is not yet even fully assembled yet.  The working group will debate
and discuss a great many issues before suggesting any strategies, and
those strategies would be the output of the entire working group.

<tongue in cheek> As for "publish or perish" academics, I doubt you'll
find that the small set of academics who choose to go knee deep into
operational issues do so because they are trying to optimize their
academic careers... ;) </tongue in cheek>

-- Jen







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