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Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
From: Fred Reimer <freimer () freimer org>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:59:05 +0000
The US federal government may have funded some initial research into the Internet, but they certainly didn't "[give] it to us in the first place." I know it was probably not the intention, but the phrasing of that statement implies that we are using a government provided communications infrastructure, and as a result we should expect the government to intercept, store, and analyze any information sent over "their" network. Other than that, I completely agree with your statement; it should be a shock to no one that the US federal government is attempting to intercept, store, and analyze as much information from as many sources as possible. As other stated, the somewhat shocking news is that companies have been blatantly lying to the public as to their involvement in this activity. If they are barred from discussing it publicly by applicable laws, which may be unconstitutional and which they refuse the fight in court, then at a minimum they could have said something to the effect of "no comment." Again, this is only somewhat shocking, because I believe everyone expected they were lying, but to see them try and cover up now is both somewhat comical and disappointing. Fred Reimer On 7/11/13 9:27 PM, "Rodrick Brown" <rodrick.brown () gmail com> wrote:
::::: off topic rant ::::: Just assume no data you store and or traverses any public cloud service is private or secure this is just silly. I can't believe people are so naive to believe messages sent over the public Internet isn't intercepted stored and analyzed by the same government bodies who gave it to us in the first place. I've always heard rumors as a kid that the NSA had systems long in place that could record all voice calls based on certain key phrases ever since the Nixon era so please tell me why are most people shocked with all the spying by governments? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com> wrote:Anyone else planning on bailing from office365? http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-use r-data Sent from my Mobile Device.
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- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Warren Bailey (Jul 16)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Damian Menscher (Jul 16)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 16)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Christopher Morrow (Jul 16)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Warren Bailey (Jul 16)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Matthew Petach (Jul 27)
- RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Robert Webb (Jul 11)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Warren Bailey (Jul 12)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages <<"tei''>>> (Jul 12)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 12)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Fred Reimer (Jul 12)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Scott Weeks (Jul 11)
- RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Robert Webb (Jul 11)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Grant Ridder (Jul 11)
- RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Robert Webb (Jul 11)
- RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Scott Weeks (Jul 11)
- RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Barry Shein (Jul 12)
- Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Martin Hannigan (Jul 16)
- RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Barry Shein (Jul 12)