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Re: Nat
From: Lee Howard <Lee () asgard org>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:35:24 -0500
On 12/16/15, 7:14 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Mel Beckman" <nanog-bounces () nanog org on behalf of mel () beckman org> wrote:
Mark, Why? Why do WE "need" to force people to bend to our will? The market will get us all there eventually.
Some companies will run out of IPv4 addresses before others. When that happens, they have four choices: 1. Buy IPv4 addresses. But supply is going; in a couple of years, there will be nothing larger than a /16. And this raises costs, and therefore consumer prices. 2. Address sharing. Breaks p2p, some other things. 3. Address family translation. Breaks several things. 4. IPv6-only. Means only IPv6-enabled content is available. That¹s why some values of $we ³need² to force people to deploy IPv6: so $we don¹t screw consumers and break the Internet. But those with IPv4 addresses see exhaustion as someone else¹s problem. They don¹t care if somebody else¹s prices go up, unless they¹re the ones blamed for the rising prices. (³You have to pay more for Internet access or you won¹t be able to reach Amazon or eBay.²) They might not like the performance of address sharing/translation, but if they wait until they notice the pain, and it takes them two years to respond, they¹re already in serious trouble. There is still time for companies without IPv6 to get it deployed before going out of business. But anyone who isn¹t done two years from now is in trouble. Lee
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