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Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion
From: manning <bmanning () karoshi com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 13:34:49 -0700
one word. RFC 1918. Here is an perpetual well of IPv4, packed down, overflowing. manning bmanning () karoshi com PO Box 12317 Marina del Rey, CA 90295 310.322.8102 On 9July2015Thursday, at 6:02, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:
On 9/Jul/15 14:53, Baldur Norddahl wrote:That will never happen. If you offer me $1000 per IPv4, then I will happily terminate some user contracts and sell their IP space to you... In fact it will never become even that expensive. With a marked price of $10 I am buying IP space for customers as needed and I will include free space in the contracts. If the price went to $100 I would tell all users that they need to pay monthly rent for their IP or alternative, the user would have to accept carrier NAT in some form. And then I would proceed to buy a new house for the money I make by selling address space. There is a ton of address space that is inefficient used. We will be able to buy excess from companies that "create" space by optimizing their existing space. There is a reason we have not seen any rise in the price even after multiple years with depletion in large parts of the world.In this particular case, I'm not concerned about the next ten years. Predicting what happens between now and then could have a fair degree of accuracy. I'm more concerned about what happens beyond that. I'm not sure I can accurately (even with large error margins) predict what happens then. All that said, I'm not trying to paint myself into that kind of corner. It is 2015, after all... Just don't tell my competitors... Mark.
Current thread:
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion, (continued)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mel Beckman (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Greg Hankins (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mel Beckman (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mark Tinka (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Owen DeLong (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mel Beckman (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mike Hammett (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mark Tinka (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Baldur Norddahl (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mark Tinka (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion manning (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mel Beckman (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Owen DeLong (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Baldur Norddahl (Jul 09)