Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

[joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>]

On 3/1/15 7:24 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Scott,
>
> Asymmetric measured where?  Between client and server or between
> servers?  I'm thinking the case where we each have a server running
> locally - how do you get a high level of asymmetry in a P2P environment?

The most densly connected relays by definition have more outgoing than
incoming given the nature of a protocol where messages are flooded by
senders.

this is widely reflected in freenix 1000 rankings.

http://top1000.anthologeek.net/

likewise if you are and edge you will undoubtedly receive more than you
originate.


> Miles Fidelman
>
>
>
> Scott Helms wrote:
> > Anything based on NNTP would be extremely asymmetric without
> > significant changes to the protocol or human behavior.
> >
> > We ran significant Usenet servers with binaries for nearly 20 years
> > and without for another 5 and the servers' traffic was heavily
> > asymmetric.
> >
> > On Mar 1, 2015 9:11 AM, "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman () meetinghouse net
> > <mailto:mfidelman () meetinghouse net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Aled Morris wrote:
> >
> >
> >         Sadly we don't have many "killer applications" for symmetric
> >         residential
> >         bandwidth, but that's likely because we don't have the
> >         infrastructure to
> >         incubate these applications.
> >
> >
> >     Come to think of it, if USENET software wasn't so cumbersome, I
> >     kind of wonder if today's "social network" would consist of home
> >     servers running NNTP - and I expect the traffic would be very
> >     symmetric. (For that matter, with a few tweaks, the USENET model
> >     would be great for "groupware" - anybody remember the Netscape
> >     communications server that added private newsgroups and
> >     authentication to the mix?)
> >
> >     Miles Fidelman
> >
> >
> >
> >     --     In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> >     In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra

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