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Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed


From: Cryptographrix <cryptographrix () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:06:07 +0000

There's really no point in whining about content providers and
regionalization as long as TV channels are still a thing.

I get that the internet totally annihilated borders of all kind (including
the book store), but some businesses change slower than others, and content
production is still back in the black-and-white TV days because even new
content producers don't have that new of a business model.

But nor are ISPs coming up with novel ways for distributors to offer more
reliable regionalization services (and most of them were in the content
regionalization business long before the Internet came around).

Pick one of those two problems and make a business to solve them.

Until then, Netflix's developers could at least use the "novel" solution of
tiering the most accurate forms of location before hitting IP geolocation.





On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:52 PM Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com> wrote:

Actually it's time for Netflix to get out of the network transport
business and tell the content providers to get over it or not get carried
on Netflix.  It used to be that Netflix needed content providers, now I am
starting to believe it might be the other way around.  Netflix might have
to take a page from the satellite guys and start calling them out
publicly.  i.e. "Netflix will no longer be able to provide you with Warner
Bros. content because they are dinosaurs that are worried that someone
might be watching in the wrong country.  We are pleased to offer you
content from producers that are not complete morons...."

As the content producers lose more and more control over the distribution
channel they are going to take whatever terms are necessary to get them on
Netflix, Apple TV, Comcast, Time Warner, DirecTV and Dish.  If you are not
on any or all of those platforms, you are going to be dead meat.   Who
would be hurt worse, Netflix or the movie producer that got seen nowhere on
their latest film.  To me, this is the last gasp of an industry that lost
control of its distribution channel years ago and is still trying to impose
that control.

Steven Naslund

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Mark Andrews
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 4:28 PM
To: Laszlo Hanyecz
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Subject: Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed


It's time for Netflix to offer IPv6 tunnels.  That way they can correlate
IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.  Longest match will result is the correct source
address being selected if they do the job correctly.

--
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka () isc org



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