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Re: Last Mile Design
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 14:55:48 +0100 (CET)
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019, Mark Tinka wrote:
someone else" they will say "huh? what do you mean". There is an unfortunate common conflation between the fiber optic cable and the services offered on it.I get what you're saying, but sadly, someone has to take the risk to build out a network. Unless you are a large incumbent like Telia, chances are it will be company whose sole focus is just fibre network construction, and anything higher up in the layers is of no interest to them.
The problem here is that it might be an energy company or someone who isn't really into datacom. Now they're going to have to operate an active network to provide this "bitstream access" with DHCP relays, BCP38 support and all that comes with it. The result is that right now, most of these networks do not support IPv6 and they do not support > 1 gigabit/s speed (some don't even support more than 100-500 either).
If they had just stayed at the L1 level and provided dark fiber for the amount of money mentioned before (for instance 10-15 EUR a month) then a lot of the problems wouldn't be there. They could have used the same organisation as before that now could do fiber as well, and that's that. Simple product, can't go wrong in a lot of weird ways.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- RE: Last Mile Design, (continued)
- RE: Last Mile Design Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 10)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 10)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 10)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 10)
- Re: Last Mile Design Baldur Norddahl (Feb 10)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 10)
- Re: Last Mile Design Thomas Bellman (Feb 11)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 11)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 11)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 11)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 11)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 11)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 11)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 11)
- Re: Last Mile Design Fletcher Kittredge (Feb 13)
- Re: Last Mile Design Brandon Butterworth (Feb 10)
- Re: Last Mile Design [American Operators] Fletcher Kittredge (Feb 13)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 10)
- Re: Last Mile Design Mark Tinka (Feb 09)
- Re: Last Mile Design Sander Steffann (Feb 09)
- Re: Last Mile Design Clayton Zekelman (Feb 09)