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Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft?
From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg () tristatelogic com>
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 13:34:26 -0700
In message <5233B9B9-1BFF-425D-BB8F-E3853703B3F3 () beckman org>, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
A quick check of one of your facts produces unexpected results, so you might want to perform more research. According the APNIC, 139.44.0.0/16 does not “belong unambiguously to the Port Authority of Melbourne”.
Please, let's not start staring at -one- tree out of the sveeral that I've talked about, and then start arguing about the shape of the pine cones on that one tree. Doing that will give short shrift to the rather larger forrest that I've tried to expose here. Is anyone disputing that 168.198.0.0/16 belongs to the Australian national government, or that AS174, Cogent was, until quite recently, routing that down to their pals at FDCServers who then were routing it down to their customer, Elad Cohen? If so, I ask that people look up this network in the RIPE Routing history tool and ALSO that folks have a look at, and explain, the following traceroute from August 23: https://pastebin.com/raw/2nJtbwjs Is anyone disputing that the 165.25.0.0/16 block rightfully belongs to the City of Cape Town, or that Cogent -continues- even as we speak, to announce a competing route to it? If so, I ask any such parties to please explain this traceroute from August 20th: https://pastebin.com/raw/2nJtbwjs Is anyones disputing that the LOAs that Mr. Cohen has produced in response to queries about some of the blocks he has stolen, and then routed via Cogent and FDCServers, are blatant and indeed really bad forgeries? Is anyone disputing that Mr. Cohen has, in effect, and via the Merit/RADB data base, claimed rights over more than a million IPv4 addresses, many of which self-evidently do not belong to him, or that Mr. Cohen's gracious and helpful providers, FDCSewers and Cogent appear to have effectively turned a blind eye to all this, or that they continue to do so, even as we speak? The Subject line that I used to start this thread may have seemed to some to be over-the-top and provocative, but to be frank, I think now that I may have not gone far enough. Cogent has been announcing a route to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, which unambiguously belongs to the City of Cape Town, At what point does such interference with legitimate governmental functions an authority, on Cogent's part, cross over from being merely bad manners and into the realm of criminality? Regards, rfg
Current thread:
- Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ronald F. Guilmette (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Mel Beckman (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Carlos Friaças via NANOG (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ben Cannon (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Neo Soon Keat (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Christopher Morrow (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ronald F. Guilmette (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ronald F. Guilmette (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Mel Beckman (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ronald F. Guilmette (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Florian Brandstetter via NANOG (Sep 09)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ronald F. Guilmette (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Carlos Friaças via NANOG (Sep 06)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Mel Beckman (Sep 06)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Vivek Nigam (Sep 17)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ronald F. Guilmette (Sep 17)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Masataka Ohta (Sep 17)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ronald F. Guilmette (Sep 18)
- Re: Cogent & FDCServers: Knowingly aiding and abetting fraud and theft? Ronald F. Guilmette (Sep 17)