Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond

[Ben Cannon <ben () 6by7 net>]

“They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing through it.”

Mike, I’d have agreed with you - 15 years ago. Is this current at all?  My views on Cogent have evolved dramatically 
over the years.  How recent is your data?

-Ben

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com> wrote:
>
> The argument has been listed numerous times so i didn’t want to bore people:
>
> 1. Sprint peering battle. Google it
> 2. He.net peering battle. Google it.
> 3. Google IPv6 peering battle. Google it.
>
> All of which point to them being pompous assholes.
>
> They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing through it.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
> > On Sep 16, 2019, at 15:59, Stephen M. <stephen.myspam () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > Please don’t praise or complain like we’re supposed to take it at a total face value. If you don’t like them so much 
> > - we are you’re audience. Explain. 
> >
> > If you like Cogent - explain.
> > If you don’t like Cogent - explain.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Stephen
> >
> > //please pardon any brevities - sent from mobile//
> >
> > > On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Whenever asked about Cogent, i just say, “Friends don’t let friends use Cogent.”
> > >
> > > I’ve told two of their reps over the past two years that even if the service was free, i wouldn’t use it. And yet, 
> > > they still call.
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > > > > On Sep 16, 2019, at 13:53, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg () tristatelogic com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In message <E814E5F6-F386-4AAE-BADA-E423D299A4FB () delong com>, 
> > > > > Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Given their practice of harvesting whois updates in order to spam newly
> > > > > acquired AS contacts, any time it is my decision, Cogent is ineligible
> > > > > as a vendor.
> > > >
> > > > So I guess then that their aiding and abetting of fraud and IP block
> > > > theft, as I documented here recently, is an entirely secondary concern...
> > > > as long as they don't spam you, yes?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > rfg