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Re: 10g residential CPE


From: Darin Steffl <darin.steffl () mnwifi com>
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 12:48:41 -0600

Aaron,

One simple question. Why on earth would you offer free internet service?
How and why? Your site show 1 Gig symmetrical for free when you should be a
minimum of $65 per month to be competitive.

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 12:31 PM Aaron Wendel <aaron () wholesaleinternet net>
wrote:

We run MikroTik RB4011s for residential speeds between 1G and 10G or just
supply a media converter.  For residential 40G and 100G we just drop in
Arista or Extreme switches.  SMBs are normally just a media converter or
direct fiber handoff.

https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in

There are not a lot of options for good, off the shelf 10G CPE equipment.
The handful of 10G residential customers we have seem to be happy with the
tik.  The couple that don’t use it have rolled their own solution.

Like anything, I’m sure once the major home broadband providers start to
catch up with us smaller guys the vendors will catch up as well.

https://www.kcfiber.com/residential

Aaron


On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:



i really don't get what the problem is. it's like they're being
deliberately obtuse.


Michael,

If vendors saw a 10GbE CPE market, they would serve it. Obviously they
don’t see a market. Why don’t people insisting vendors build their hobby
horse see that? It’s like they’re being deliberately obtuse :)

-mel via cell

On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:




On 12/26/20 8:00 AM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:


Anybody got a feel for what percent of the third-party gear currently sold
to

consumers has sane bufferbloat support in 2020, when we've *known* that

de-bufferbloated gear is a viable differentiatior if marketed right
(consider the

percent of families that have at least one gamer who cares)?


I don't know percentages, but just trying to find cpe that support it in
their specs is depressingly small. considering that they're all using linux
and queuing discipline software is ages old, i really don't get what the
problem is. it's like they're being deliberately obtuse. given all of the
zoom'ing happening now you think that somebody would hit them with the
clue-bat that this is a marketing opportunity.


Mike




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