Re: Perhaps it's time to think about enhancements to the NANOG list...?

[David Siegel <arizonagull () gmail com>]

...not to mention that all mature networks are moving more towards GUI
front ends for their automated network.  As the complexity of a network
increases, CLI access becomes considerably more risky.

The idea that "real engineers use the CLI" is dinosaur thinking that will
eventually land those with that philosophy out of a job.  Just my personal
$.02 (though I'm certainly not alone in my opinion).

But I'd like to reiterate that the board's goal with modernization is not
to alienate anyone from the existing community by forcing them into a
web-interface.  Discourse is under evaluation, and if it doesn't accomplish
the goal we'll try something else or build our own tool.

Dave




On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:52 PM Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 5:13 PM scott <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote:
> [...]
>
> >  Of course, one would
> > not find an HTTP GUI on the bigger networks dealt with on this list;
> > only on the tiny networks.  So they're beginning learners and are, of
> > course, welcome.  They will lean a lot, just as I did in the early days
> > and do every day now days.
>
> [...]
>
> > scott
>
> Let's see...
> Google: Gmail
> Microsoft: Hotmail/Outlook/Office365
> Yahoo/VerizonMedia: Yahoo Mail
>
> I'd have to say, there's some pretty big networks on this list that
> use HTTP GUIs for their email.
>
> Of course, you might be big enough that you look down on the
> networks of Google, Microsoft, and VZM as "tiny networks" -- in
> which case, you're definitely entitled to your opinion, as all 8000
> pound gorillas that look down on the puny 800 lb gorillas are.  ;)
>
> Matt