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Re: Tier1 BGP filter generation data sources & frequency


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 14:20:58 -0400

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 4:29 PM Laura Smith via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

I thought everyone was supposed to be migrating to MANRS. ;-)


...if you aren't cracking a joke about the 15th of 14 standards...

MANRS is an umbrella project that is supposed to (depending on where you
fit in the ecosystem, but generally):
  1) bcp-38 your customer/your traffic
  2) publish your routing intent data in an IRR
  3) publish your routing origin data in RPKI
  4) filter your customer/peer/partner/<nouns> routes to/from them: "Do not
send them nonsesne, do not accept nonsense"
  5) tell more people about the above (there, I accomplished a MANRS
requirement!!)

srsly though... manrs is about being a reasonable adult on the inter-tubes.
The particular question from the OP was:
  "Hey, I have routing data, others also do, what does it take to get
people to believe my routing data?"

I think:
  1) publish your IRR content properly, keep it updated
  2) publish your ROA/RPKI data, keep it updated
  3) automate the above 2 so you don't have to make a hoomon do the work





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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, 22 May 2021 00:40, Clinton Work <clinton () scripty com> wrote:

Is there any compiled information for Tier1 providers on the supported
BGP filter generation data sources and frequency?

This is what I have been able to determine so far:

-   TATA AS6453: IRR and RPKI ROAs (
http://lg.as6453.net/doc/cust-routing-policy.html)
-   Cogent AS174: unknown
-   NTT 2914: IRR, ARIN WHOIS OriginAS, NIC.br whois, RPKI ROAs (
https://www.gin.ntt.net/support-center/policies-procedures/routing/)
-   Lumen AS3356: IRR
-   Telia AS1299: IRR

    TATA is going to deprecate new RADB, NTTCOM, and ALTDB route objects
starting Aug 15, 2021 and I was hoping that more providers would add RPKI
ROAs as a data source for BGP filter generation. Supporting RPKI ROAs would
mean that you don't have to create both IRR route objects and RPKI ROAs for
each IP block.

    --
    Clinton Work





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