Re: Tier1 BGP filter generation data sources & frequency

["babydr DBA James W. Laferriere" <babydr () baby-dragons com>]

        Hello Jon ,

On Mon, 24 May 2021, Jon Lewis wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2021, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 02:04:32PM -0400, Luca Salvatore wrote:
> > > Curious if anyone is aware of other Tier1s deprecating support for RADB?
> >
> > Rather than deprecating RADB, I think the industry would be better off
> > if either RADB or the Tier1s (in their local caching layer) deploy IRR
> > database software capable of RPKI Origin Validation ala RIPE-731.
>
> I suspect the attitude is "why bother when we can just require that everyone 
> use the IRR run by their RIR, rely on the RIR to not allow bogosity in thier 
> IRR, and keep using our existing software, just limiting the IRR sources from 
> which it'll accept objects?"

	While I am not a big player (or even a bump in the road) in this group I 
do find it rather odd that people & corporate entities allow (& sponsor) 
another grab at ,  imo ,  taking over the proper way we as players in this 
arena should be working WITH each other .  The "just leave it to big brother" 
is just plain a cop out to laziness<whatever verb you'd wish to use> (agn imo) .

        Sorry I'll say no more on the above as I'd just rant .


> BTW...speaking of MANRS, if there's someone on-list who can help out with 
> some questions, I'd appreciate the contact.  For $work, I'd been talking to 
> Kevin Meynell about our joining.  It fell through the cracks and recently 
> popped back up.  Recent email to Kevin got no reply.  The MANRS web site 
> could use quite a bit of clarification (or maybe just toss it and start 
> over).

	To be honest the manrs site left me feeling rather blase' ,  The place 
that interested me is the Implementation Guide .  Which seems to be a compendium 
of the [RFC|BCP]'s of the Proper way to maintain records at and with the entity 
that dispenses the resource(s) being used .


> Also, I'm curious how common it is for networks to build IRR-based 
> prefix-list filters for all their peers (i.e. IX peers, where you have lots 
> of peers)?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jon Lewis, MCP :)           |  I route
> StackPath, Sr. Neteng       |  therefore you are
> _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________

        Twyl ,  Back to silent mode .  JimL
--
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| James   W.   Laferriere    | System    Techniques | Give me VMS     |
| Network & System Engineer  | 3237     Holden Road |  Give me Linux  |
| jiml () system-techniques com | Fairbanks, AK. 99709 |   only  on  AXP |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+