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Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime
From: David Ford <david () kalifornia com>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:47:50 -0700
For reference:
Article 6 - Illegal Devices Each Party shall adopt such legislative and other measures as may be necessary to establish as criminal offences under its domestic law when committed intentionally and without right: a.the production, sale, procurement for use, import, distribution or otherwise making available of: 1.a device, including a computer program, designed or adapted [specifically] [primarily] [particularly] for the purpose of committing any of the offences established in accordance with Article 2 – 5; 2.a computer password, access code, or similar data by which the whole or any part of a computer system is capable of being accessed with intent that it be used for the purpose of committing the offences established in Articles 2 - 5; a.the possession of an item referred to in paragraphs (a)(1) and (2) above, with intent that it be used for the purpose of committing the offenses established in Articles 2 – 5. A party may require by law that a number of such items be possessed before criminal liability attaches.
I don't think that the creation of nmap fits into either section 1 or 2. The possession of nmap for the purpose of committing a crime certainly does however. This is much the same as making a wreckingball crane. That isn't a crime. Using that wreckingball crane on your neighbor's house without his approval on the otherhand... Do note the statement of article 6. "...when committed intentionally and without right:" -d Matt Marnell wrote:
Fyodor, nmap enthusiasts- I was just wondering how you guys feel about the Draft Convention on Cybercrime being circulated throughout roughly 40 countries for approval (including the US)? In it, certain "Illegal Devices" are banned entirely, the definition of which encompasses utilities such as nmap (Article 6). you can check out the first revision of the treaty here: http://conventions.coe.int/treaty/en/projets/cybercrime.htm Matt
-- "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
Current thread:
- Draft Convention on Cybercrime Matt Marnell (Jun 02)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime William Bradd (Jun 02)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime David Ford (Jun 02)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime Bart van Leeuwen (Jun 02)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime Mike Black (Jun 03)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime dhaag (Jun 03)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime Bart van Leeuwen (Jun 03)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime David Dennis (Jun 03)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime Mike Black (Jun 03)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime White Vampire (Jun 03)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime Tyler Allison (Jun 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime Matt Marnell (Jun 03)
- RE: Draft Convention on Cybercrime Marjorie Simmons (Jun 03)
- Re: Draft Convention on Cybercrime Jeff Simmons (Jun 03)
(Thread continues...)