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RE: CISSP-ISSMP
From: "Levenglick, Jeff" <JLevenglick () fhlbatl com>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 10:48:57 -0400
This always comes up. I'm glad that someone finally wrote an article. Why IT Certs Don't Add Up http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1957242,00.asp As IT Certifications Devalue, Vendors Up the Ante http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1956636,00.asp Study Shows Downside of IT Certification http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1954198,00.asp "Pay for non-certified skills grew nearly 70 percent more than certifications, or 4.4 percent versus 2.6 percent respectively. Among "cooling" certified tech skills, those that have lost their value in the last year, the study lists nine, including MCDST (Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician), CISA (Certified Information Systems Auditor), and three Novell certifications (NCDE, MCNE, and CNA). Fourteen certifications have grown in value, showing an 11 percent or higher growth over the last year, including SCNP (Security Certified Network Professional), CISM (Certified Information Security Manager) and MCT (Microsoft Certified Trainer). " Why? Simple: 1) Too many people. Unlike Cisco, Microsoft and others realized that they can make a lot more money by making the tests a little easier. Funny how everybody now has letters? Did you notice how many study books are out there? (And how they all are alike?) 2) A cert is not the same or will ever be the same as a B.S. and MBA. Too many people have chips on their shoulders. Depending on your area, if there are too many 'cert' people, then companies will frown upon the person who is asking for more money because they have certs. Roi..ect is hard to define. The 'best' case is that you work for a company that pays for it. Advancement? If you have a B.S. or MBA then you will advance quicker with your CISSP then if you did not have a degree. (Plus on the job experience) Raise potential? Depends on the company. If the company is doing crappy, then so will you. It sounds like your are just starting out? If so, you have a long way to go. PLUS... ISC requires: 4 years + experience in security. (3 with a BS or 1 with a masters) Your resume. (they reserve the right to audit you) Sponsorship from another CISSP. -----Original Message----- From: Mohamed Abdel Kader [mailto:makster12 () hotmail com] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 05:27 AM To: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: CISSP-ISSMP Hi all, I was wondering if anyone out there did the CISSP-ISSMP concentration. I want to know the value added in the areas listed below, in an out of 10 scale for example: Total ROI Career Advancement Industry Demand Raise Potential Suitable for what job/position (not an out of 10 answer of course :)) I also want to know the material to study from. Thanks a million. MAK ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security? Why not go with the #1 solution - Cenzic, the only one to win the Analyst's Choice Award from eWeek. As attacks through web applications continue to rise, you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security penetration testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go with a managed service (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (Cenzic Hailstorm). Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to confirm your results from other product. Contact us at request () cenzic com for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ ----------------------------------------- This e-mail message is private and may contain confidential or privileged information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security? Why not go with the #1 solution - Cenzic, the only one to win the Analyst's Choice Award from eWeek. As attacks through web applications continue to rise, you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security penetration testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go with a managed service (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (Cenzic Hailstorm). Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to confirm your results from other product. Contact us at request () cenzic com for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- CISSP-ISSMP Mohamed Abdel Kader (May 08)
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- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Nathaniel Hirsch (May 08)
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- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Nathaniel Hirsch (May 09)
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- Re: CISSP-ISSMP intel96 (May 09)
- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Pete Herzog (May 10)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Levenglick, Jeff (May 08)
- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Bob Radvanovsky (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Angelacci, Anna M CTR SPAWAR, J616 (May 09)
- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Nathaniel Hirsch (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Williamson, Clyde (May 09)
- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Nathaniel Hirsch (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Arley Barros Leal (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Levenglick, Jeff (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Craig Wright (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Benson, Sean M (May 10)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Serge Vondandamo (May 11)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Benson, Sean M (May 11)