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Re: CISSP-ISSMP
From: "Nathaniel Hirsch" <nh2 () njit edu>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 07:59:49 -0400
In terms of simple knowledge gained I learned a lot from taking the exam. It is a mile wide. Like I now know which is the best fire suppression system to use in any given location, and can tell you how high a fence needs to be to deter average people from climbing over it, the different type of lighting a building can have, there benefits of hot and cold sites, lots of crazy laws and how they are applicable, and a bunch of other stuff that I personally don't use in my day to day job. Like I could care less about the encryption scheme used inGSM phones. But these are the things that are covered in the CISSP. So I gained a lot of knowledge, but as for how much of it was directly
applicable to work, very little. Pretty much everything that was applicable to my line of work I already knew. Nathaniel Hirsch, CISSP Xacta Corporation 656 Shrewsbury Ave. Shrewsbury, NJ 07702 On 5/9/06, Deogratias Nondi <dgratius () hotmail com> wrote:
How can you compare it with CISA, in terms of work knowledge gained? ________________________________ From: "Nathaniel Hirsch" <nh2 () njit edu> To: "Mohamed Abdel Kader" <makster12 () hotmail com> CC: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: Re: CISSP-ISSMP Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 16:19:18 -0400 I recently got my CISSP. The company that I work for paid for me to go to a class, and take the test assuming I passed. If I failed then the $500 would be on my nickle. Thankfully I did not fail. The main reason they wanted me to get my CISSP is now they can charge more for the work they contract me out to, this and you need it or some other equivalent to do level 3 and 4 DITSCAP testing. As for an ROI after I passed a got a 15% raise which was nice, but I was also up for a raise, so I can not tell you how much that was due to the CISSP, and how much was due to my overall performance at the company. Personally I feel that the exam and certification process is a waste of time, and so does everyone else at the company, but they are needed, or so they say. However we have a guy who works here who is a CISSP and a CEH(certified ethical hacker), and to be truthful, he is quite possible the most worthless tester I have ever had to work with, and everyone else in the office knows this. So having the cert doesn't make you good, and doesn't prove to anyone that you have experience or skill. It just proves that you can pick the correct answer out of a four possible answer on a 250 question multiple choice exam. As for giving an out of 10 scale for everything you mentioned I guess they would all be 5s because it all really depends on a lot of other things. As for what job its good for, I would have to say more managerial then anything else. The topics covered are really only puddle deep, not enough to know whats going on, just enough to know that it is going on though. Nathaniel Hirsch, CISSP Xacta Corporation 656 Shrewsbury Ave. Shrewsbury, NJ 07702 On 5/8/06, Mohamed Abdel Kader <makster12 () hotmail com> wrote: >Hi all, >I was wondering if anyone out there did the CISSP-ISSMP >concentration. >I want to know the value added in the areas listed below, in an out >of 10 >scale for example: > > Total ROI > Career Advancement > Industry Demand > Raise Potential > > Suitable for what job/position (not an out of 10 answer of >course :)) > >I also want to know the material to study from. > >Thanks a million. >MAK > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This List Sponsored by: Cenzic > >Concerned about Web Application Security? >Why not go with the #1 solution - Cenzic, the only one to win the >Analyst's >Choice Award from eWeek. As attacks through web applications >continue to rise, >you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. >Cenzic has the >most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security >penetration >testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go >with a >managed service (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software >(Cenzic Hailstorm). Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed >service can >help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php >And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to >confirm your >results from other product. Contact us at request () cenzic com for >details. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security? Why not go with the #1 solution - Cenzic, the only one to win the Analyst's Choice Award from eWeek. As attacks through web applications continue to rise, you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security penetration testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go with a managed service (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (Cenzic Hailstorm). Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to confirm your results from other product. Contact us at request () cenzic com for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Bob Radvanovsky (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Angelacci, Anna M CTR SPAWAR, J616 (May 09)
- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Nathaniel Hirsch (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Williamson, Clyde (May 09)
- Re: CISSP-ISSMP Nathaniel Hirsch (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Arley Barros Leal (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Levenglick, Jeff (May 09)
- RE: CISSP-ISSMP Craig Wright (May 09)