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Re: Civil Disobedience
From: White Vampire <whitevampire () mindless com>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:54:07 -0400
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 12:47:43PM -0500, Joel Rivers(rivers () lcms org) wrote:
What civil liberties are we giving up? Since when is hacking, virus-writing, and website defacing a civil liberty? I will agree that life imprisionment is a little harsh for defacing a web site but I think that harsher penalties hopefully will serve as a deterent for this type of behavior.
Let the punishment fit the crime, comes to mind. It is not defined clearly enough to limit to cleancut illegal behavior. It could affect computer professionals involved in the computer security world, at least that was my impression.
I'll say that the "increase in government surveillance authority" is the primary area of concern in regards to "losing civil liberties" in this bill. If anything, this is the area we should be focusing our concern, not on harsh penalties for those who are attempting illegal behavior.
That is definitely of concern. It is unconstitutional. Regardless, there are multiple angles that must be considered. The infringement attempts and successes upon freedom in the United States as of late are outright disgusting. It is unnecessary to quote the entire message. Regards, - -- \ | \ / White Vampire\Rem | http://gammaforce.org/ \|\| \/ whitevampire () mindless com | http://gammagear.com/ "Silly hacker, root is for administrators." | http://webfringe.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE7yzDO3+rxmnEDyl8RApreAKCr6eqVo5CfezwxHYY9QrjzhTfpsACdHJ5g vrQznvrL08z+e2fr2XkRJxs= =YwGw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Current thread:
- RE: Civil Disobedience, (continued)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Joel Rivers (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ken Ludeman (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ron DuFresne (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ken Ludeman (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ron DuFresne (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience William N. Zanatta (Oct 16)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ken Ludeman (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Joel Rivers (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Alan L. Waller (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Ron DuFresne (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Blue Boar (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience VeNoMouS (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience White Vampire (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Joe Shaw (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Jose Nazario (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Ron DuFresne (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience TD - Sales International Holland B.V. (Oct 16)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Geoff Galitz (Oct 17)