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Re: Civil Disobedience


From: Ethan Zimmer <ezimmer () livewave tv>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:56:56 -0400

John Thornton wrote:

( Moderator: Please pass this though Blue Boar. Please just allow this
thread even if it is just for a day )

In case you have been living under a rock the past few weeks. You should
know that our civil liberties are under attack. Kevin Poulsen wrote:
"Hackers, virus-writers and web site defacers would face life imprisonment
without the possibility of parole under legislation proposed by the Bush
Administration that would classify most computer crimes as acts of
terrorism."
( http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257, Hackers face life imprisonment
under 'Anti-Terrorism' Act). When you read the news this morning you will
see that this bill was passed by the Senate.
(http://www.securityfocus.com/news/265, Senate passes terror bill).

I will say that most of the readers of this news group are not hackers but
Network Administrators that are very involved with the Security Community.
That is why I am asking you, not to report minor scans against your network
to the abuse department of any ISP if this bill becomes law.

I as a Network Administrator for many years now have been on a routine to
check my logs for scans against my network every morning and send the logs
of attacks to the abuse department of the ISP. I encourage every Network
I can't begin to count the number of times that visitors to our site,
whom just got that spiffy new firewall on their windows box, have
emailed me, cc'd to the FBI, our upstream, and anyone else they can
think of claiming our servers were "breaking into" their machine.  Every
single time this was a web application using a port other then 80. 
These go 100% of the time unanswered by anyone but me explaining that
they were just contacting us and the traffic is benign.  I can't imagine
what the future will bring with these proposed new laws.  Any newbie
with a firewall that suspects something is going to become a terrorist
spotter.

Quite scary.  

-- 
Ethan Zimmer - ezimmer () livewave tv   
Director of Research and Development
LiveWave, Inc.


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