Re: Civil Disobedience

["Jon O ." <jono () microshaft org>]

Yes, these are interesting developments. Furthermore, take a look at this:

RIAA Wants to Hack Your PC 
http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,47552,00.html

Seems there is some kind of double standard. In response to these new laws
and moves by groups like the RIAA, some people have been discussing the
formation of a Technical Engineering Guild. The idea of this Guild is to
speak as a group against certain aspects of these laws that USENIX and 
the ACM have been speaking out against. 

The Guild list is here:
http://lists.anti-dmca.org/mailman/listinfo/IT_union



On 15-Oct-2001, Ethan Zimmer wrote:
> John Thornton wrote:
> > ( Moderator: Please pass this though Blue Boar. Please just allow this
> > thread even if it is just for a day )
> >
> > In case you have been living under a rock the past few weeks. You should
> > know that our civil liberties are under attack. Kevin Poulsen wrote:
> > "Hackers, virus-writers and web site defacers would face life imprisonment
> > without the possibility of parole under legislation proposed by the Bush
> > Administration that would classify most computer crimes as acts of
> > terrorism."
> > ( http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257, Hackers face life imprisonment
> > under 'Anti-Terrorism' Act). When you read the news this morning you will
> > see that this bill was passed by the Senate.
> > (http://www.securityfocus.com/news/265, Senate passes terror bill).
> >
> > I will say that most of the readers of this news group are not hackers but
> > Network Administrators that are very involved with the Security Community.
> > That is why I am asking you, not to report minor scans against your network
> > to the abuse department of any ISP if this bill becomes law.
> >
> > I as a Network Administrator for many years now have been on a routine to
> > check my logs for scans against my network every morning and send the logs
> > of attacks to the abuse department of the ISP. I encourage every Network
> I can't begin to count the number of times that visitors to our site,
> whom just got that spiffy new firewall on their windows box, have
> emailed me, cc'd to the FBI, our upstream, and anyone else they can
> think of claiming our servers were "breaking into" their machine.  Every
> single time this was a web application using a port other then 80. 
> These go 100% of the time unanswered by anyone but me explaining that
> they were just contacting us and the traffic is benign.  I can't imagine
> what the future will bring with these proposed new laws.  Any newbie
> with a firewall that suspects something is going to become a terrorist
> spotter.
>
> Quite scary.  
>
> -- 
> Ethan Zimmer - ezimmer () livewave tv   
> Director of Research and Development
> LiveWave, Inc.