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Re: Filtering by client IP address for Web App Sessions


From: Paul Johnston <paul () westpoint ltd uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:00:45 +0000

Hi,

I did an experiment using my website (http://pajhome.org.uk/) which is based in the UK. I used the Apache CookieTracking module with some other magic to get a measure of how common IP address changes were. The results are: 26540 visitors, 862 came from more than one IP address. In other words, it's about 3% of my site's browsers. These aren't all due to load-balanced proxies; some look like dial-up users reconnecting.

This is documented on pages 26-27 of my paper, http://www.westpoint.ltd.uk/advisories/Paul_Johnston_GSEC.pdf

Best wishes,

Paul


Evans, Arian wrote:

Question for those outside of the US of A:

In Europe, Asia, etc. do you have:

1. Any significant user population of your web applications
comprised of AOL (America online) users?

2. Are there many ISPs or large organizations using megaproxies
that swap client source IPs across entire classes of netblock (e.g.
-like AOL does)?

I've been telling people for years that you can't filter by source or
even last octet netblocks and lately have been wondering if I'm dense
and this is a US-centric bias of mine thanks to the ISP behaviors
I've had to deal with over the years.

Feedback appreciated,

Arian






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