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RE: Wireless Security
From: "David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:22:30 -0700
IANAL, of course, but I *have* been paying attention to issues like this.....
A) What if any obligation to the neighbors does the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network have?
None. If I live on a corner and put up a fence around my lot, I have no obligation to compensate the pedestrians who used to shorten their journey by cutting across my lawn.
B) What happens IF one neighbor goes in and reads/deletes msgs/files from another neighbor's computer is the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network for their own use liable?
Possibly. A case could be argued that the unsecured Wi-Fi constitutes an Attractive Nuisance, and a court could find civil liability on that basis. Not a gamble I'd choose to take.
C) Can the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network legally go in and look around his/her neighbors computers?
Of course not.
D) What if one the neighbors get a virus, is the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network liable?
Same as B.
E) What if any expectations to privacy do the unauthorized users have?
PROBABLY none, but they may be able to argue that they were not informed of that fact. They might even argue that the unsecured state of the Wi-Fi constituted -- for all they knew! -- authorization, and that might make even the transmissions *through* the Wi-Fi subject to various electronic communications privacy legislation. Moral: Public Wi-Fi should be implemented deliberately, not accidentally, and probably with legal advice up front. By the time any of these questions stops being hypothetical, it may already be too late. David Gillett
-----Original Message----- From: Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. [mailto:hfebelingjr () lycos com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:17 PM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Wireless Security -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've got a question (actually a few) along these lines. Let's say that a person has a Wi-Fi network setup at home. And they find out that some of their neighbors have accessed it. A) What if any obligation to the neighbors does the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network have? B) What happens IF one neighbor goes in and reads/deletes msgs/files from another neighbor's computer is the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network for their own use liable? C) Can the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network legally go in and look around his/her neighbors computers? D) What if one the neighbors get a virus, is the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network liable? E) What if any expectations to privacy do the unauthorized users have? Herman - -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Davis [mailto:daryl () ultbingo com] Sent: Tuesday, 04 October, 2005 12:56 To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Wireless blocking I believe I have an unauthorized wireless router on my network. I have been unable to physically find it as of yet. Does anyone know how to find the hidden SSID and then Jam it? Thank you. Daryl R Davis Digital Game Media, Inc. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQ01ORx/i52nbE9vTEQJiUgCeOOjX9N6x73SckuWo8IM3fRrF7NoAni3P b8FzLCft8X2qZYK7BYhdx+E3 =9dp4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Current thread:
- Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 12)
- Re: Wireless Security Kenton Smith (Oct 13)
- Re: Wireless Security Kevin Reiter (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- Re: Wireless Security Kevin Reiter (Oct 18)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security David Gillett (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security David Gillett (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security David Gillett (Oct 17)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 17)
- Hard drives v. CF/Smart media/etc. Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 18)
- RE: Hard drives v. CF/Smart media/etc. David Gillett (Oct 18)
- Re: Hard drives v. CF/Smart media/etc. Robert Reed (Oct 18)
- Re: Hard drives v. CF/Smart media/etc. Alloishus BeauMains (Oct 18)
- RE: Hard drives v. CF/Smart media/etc. Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 18)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 13)