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Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads?
From: Gary Flynn <flynngn () jmu edu>
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:39:49 -0500
Mike Hoskins wrote:
I think the clear point is that lazy admins (engineers, managers, etc.) have caused the current, broken Internet. Innocent email that gets caught by the RBL of the month, packets that get blackholed because the last user started a SYN flood (and the current user has no clue, nor dos the ISP/NSP's operations dept), etc., etc. Goodby "open" Internet. Ahh, but what did we expect... As the number of people on the Internet approaches the number of people in the real world, the "open" and "idealistic" Internet (TCP/IP is idealistic) must become like the real world and suck more every day. It's easier to block a country, class A/B/C, etc. than it is to monitor, inspect, track and resolve potential issues. Doing things simply because they're easy, however, rarely leads to the desired result.
While I agree with your sentiments, I have to disagree with the reasons you gave. Engineers and managers can no more "monitor, inspect, track, and resolve potential issues" brought on by connecting the world's population than can scientists, politicians, law enforcement, and religious leaders. An open network, like an open society, requires cooperative, educated members for it to function. -- Gary Flynn Security Engineer - Technical Services James Madison University Please R.U.N.S.A.F.E. http://www.jmu.edu/computing/runsafe _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? R. DuFresne (Jan 04)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Christopher Hicks (Jan 04)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Paul D. Robertson (Jan 04)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Christopher Hicks (Jan 05)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Paul D. Robertson (Jan 05)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Christopher Hicks (Jan 05)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Paul D. Robertson (Jan 05)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Gary Flynn (Jan 05)
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- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Marcus J. Ranum (Jan 03)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Mike Hoskins (Jan 03)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Mike Hoskins (Jan 03)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? David Lang (Jan 03)
- Re: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Gary Flynn (Jan 03)
- RE: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Paul D. Robertson (Jan 05)
- RE: Re: Anybody Recognize These Uploads? Bill Royds (Jan 05)