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Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:04:27 GMT
Sorry, gotta call 'bullshit' on that one. I would suggest that you familiarize yourself with the 16 provisions of the Patriot Act in contention: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/16/patriot.provisions.ap/index.html Disclaimer: I'm also a fervant supporter of the EFF, blgging for EFF-Austin (Texas): http://effaustin.org/ - ferg -- Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> wrote:
If you were a *true* conservative, you'd be asking why the government needs the ability to go into essentially *any* place of business (including your bank, the library, and anyplace else that you've exchanged money or ID with), and look at your records, with the following: 1) No judicial oversight. Subpoenas? Warrants? Who needs those?
This is false. The only part of the Patriot Act that doesn't mandate judicial oversight is section 501, which has to do with payments authorized by the US Attorney General of rewards (like the $25 million for Saddam.) The rest of the act requires judicial approval before they can obtain anyone's records. [snip] -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Kenneth Bechtel (Dec 16)
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- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Paul Schmehl (Dec 16)
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- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Matthew Murphy (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Dude VanWinkle (Dec 16)
- Re[2]: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Pierre Vandevenne (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Paul Schmehl (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Nick FitzGerald (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Dude VanWinkle (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Dude VanWinkle (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Paul Schmehl (Dec 16)
- RE: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Hubbard, Dan (Dec 16)
- Re: U.S. Senate Blocks Patriot Act Renewal Dude VanWinkle (Dec 16)