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Re: Here's how to get on the NSA's radar screen
From: Matthew Murphy <mattmurphy () kc rr com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:22:30 -0600
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Richard M. Smith wrote:
Here's how the Weekly Standard explained NSA's monitoring program: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/569wwiwx.a sp?pg=2 Beginning in early 2002, the National Security Agency began monitoring telephone numbers and email addresses discovered in the computers, cell phones, and address books of captured al Qaeda operatives, and it has continued to do so, following resultant leads into an expanding, digital network of terrorism suspects. Even by Risen's account, an overwhelming majority of the program's targets are located overseas--currently "about 7,000 people" abroad, along with "about 500" other people they've contacted here in the States. Just the same, because nowadays "many purely international communications--telephone calls and email messages from the Middle East to Asia, for example--end up going through telecommunications switches that are physically based in the United States," eavesdropping on any call so routed "might be a violation of the regulations and laws restricting the NSA from spying inside the United States."
Given that these numbers and e-mail addresses were found essentially *in the hands* of captured al-Qaeda (read: people who want to kill Americans and westerners), it would seem to me to be a slam dunk to get a FISA warrant. It would be akin to capturing a low-level member of some kind of crime ring and then wiretapping people that individual is known to have associated with in a bid to further infiltrate the organization. Albeit with more secrecy. If the account here is indeed accurate, I'd have *NO PROBLEM* with these wiretaps, _with a FISA warrant_. It's the lack of a warrant that is an issue for me. - -- "Social Darwinism: Try to make something idiot-proof, nature will provide you with a better idiot." -- Michael Holstein -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) iD8DBQFDxa9Wfp4vUrVETTgRA44hAJ9AGU6Pl6ujztfl0kqQjUD7nyEP5gCfRZMV zq1EyfUMFp4Any62rnHZtRc= =OSv6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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