RE: University of South Carolina e-Mail Compromises StudentIDs

["Justin Polazzo" <jpolazzo () thesportsauthority com>]

Are you guys hiring US people? I like your system much better,.. At
least you have a choice :-)

I have heard that you can declare "sovereign citizenship" here in the
states and get rid of your SSN all together. Basically you are saying "I
am a citizen of the United States, not any individual state or branch of
the federal government". This means that you arent eligible to receive
food stamps, social security income, Medicare, or all the other services
I will never use. It also means you don't have to have a drivers license
or SSN to be legal.

-JP

Justin Polazzo
Security Analyst
Sports Authority
jpolazzo () thesportsauthority com
303-524-7349

-----Original Message-----
From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of David Lodge
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 12:27 PM
To: Blanchard_Michael () emc com
Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] University of South Carolina e-Mail Compromises
StudentIDs

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:15:49 +0200, <Blanchard_Michael () emc com> wrote:
>  SSN should only be used for Income related items, between yourself, 
> your employer and the government.  If I apply for a loan, they can 
> have my SSN, credit card is a form of a loan.

My should a loan or credit card require something that is there for tax?

What possible use can it be for the bank/credit card company, other than
to prove that you aren't an illegal immigrant?

This is one of the biggest disjunctions between the US and the UK that
I've noticed: the social security/national insurance number. The US
people seem to have no qualms to asking for it/using it for everything
short of buying bread.

Over here, most people don't even know their NI number (I only know mine
as it's on my tax return every year). It's never used as a form of ID.

>  No need for a SSN to buy a house, or anythign else, just pay cash :-)

Except that most places won't except more that about 2 grand's worth of
cash (in case of money laundering). Otherwise admirable.

Unfortunately, the UK attitude will change: banks are already requesting
a passport or driving licence to create an account or perform a
transaction (and what use will that do - my bank has never seen my
passport or driving licence, how can they validate that that is mine and
not some other person with the same name)? I'm fully preparing to be
part of the unterclass of the ID cardless people that will be coming
soon...

dave
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