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RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month
From: Blanchard_Michael () emc com
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:46:31 -0400
Oops, maybe it was lovebug...one of the viruses/worms around that time period was said to be accidentally released. I can't remember, thought it was Mellisa that was accidentally released, I was incorrect :-( irregardless of which virus, writing them is wrong, willfully releasing them, doublely so. Accidentally releasing them just proves that the writer really doesn't know what they're doing and certainly shouldn't have been playing with them to begin with..... So what about nachi? The supposed "good worm" to remove Blaster infections and apply ms03-026 Microsoft patch? Nachi caused WAY more damage that I've seen than blaster did.... Mike B Michael P. Blanchard Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. Westboro, MA 01580 -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Richard M. Smith Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:04 PM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: RE: [funsec] write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Huh? Court papers: Smith admits to creating Melissa virus http://news.com.com/Court+papers+Smith+admits+to+creating+Melissa+virus/2100 -1023_3-230256.html Smith admitted to writing the "Melissa" macro virus, illegally accessing America Online for the purpose of posting the virus onto the Internet, and destroying the personal computer he used to post the virus, Bubb stated. The AOL account used to spread VicodinES viruses was skyroket () aol com. Google Groups still finds some of these virus spreading postings that were done about a year before Melissa: http://tinyurl.com/zs3py Richard -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Blanchard_Michael () emc com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:53 PM To: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu; ge () linuxbox org Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: RE: [funsec] write viruses? it's controversy time of the month What about writing a virus, but never intending for it to get out, but it gets out? Um, Melissa anyone? I'm not gunna touch it any further though, I have a cell phone to throw! :-) Michael P. Blanchard Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. Westboro, MA 01580 -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:28 PM To: Gadi Evron Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] write viruses? it's controversy time of the month On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:13:49 CDT, Gadi Evron said:
http://www.heise-security.co.uk/articles/77440 Okay, so, who wants to shout writing viruses is bad, first?
Releasing viruses is bad. Keeping a stockpile of viruses under conditions that they may escape is bad - and it doesn't matter if you wrote them or collected them. You may have collected a rare virus that hasn't been seen yet by A/V signature writers - or you may write viruses that intentionally are detected by current scanners. So the moral injunction is to not release undetectable viruses, no matter what source. Writing a non-released virus? That's a black box by definition, and morally neutral. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month, (continued)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month David Harley (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 30)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Richard M. Smith (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Nick FitzGerald (Aug 30)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Larry Seltzer (Aug 30)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blanchard_Michael (Aug 30)