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RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month
From: "Richard M. Smith" <rms () bsf-llc com>
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:54:37 -0400
In the early 1970s, I thought about creating a Fortran program that submitted 2 copies of itself to the internal card reader device of an IBM mainframe. Luckily I never had the time to actually write and test the program. Richard -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:43 PM To: david.a.harley () gmail com Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] write viruses? it's controversy time of the month On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:16:26 BST, David Harley said:
Was that your first one? Elk is supposed to be the oldest virus in the wild, from 1982? so ~24 years.1983, IIRC, though Peter Szor says '82. There seem to have been a couple
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Apple II jobbies before that, though, and these weren't the first replicative programs. I decline to be drawn into the "worms vs viruses" argument yet again.
Replicative programs by way of quining were well understood in the mid-60s. I'm fairly sure that there were worm-ish things running around Multics by the mid-70s, and the Jargon File documents a Xerox CP-V hack involving "Robin Hood" and "Friar Tuck" in the mid-70s as well. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Dude VanWinkle (Aug 29)
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- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
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- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Blue Boar (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Drsolly (Aug 30)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month David Harley (Aug 30)
- Re: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 30)
- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Richard M. Smith (Aug 30)
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- RE: write viruses? it's controversy time of the month Larry Seltzer (Aug 30)
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